ITC 07 — Spirits Talking Through Radio (E)

 Radios like these were configured by ITC researchers late last century to talk to spirits. (photos from istock)

In October 1994 I visited Maggy Fischbach and Jules Harsch in Luxembourg for the second time, along with two other guests. By the time we three visitors arrived, a configuration of radios (which the couple referred to as their “GA2” system) had already been set up in the living room, and the radios were emitting a gentle hiss-s-s-s of white noise. The five of us spent a casual hour or so getting to know each other, until we heard some strange beeps and whistles in the radios. Maggy turned on the tape recorder next to the radios, and when a tiny voice began to speak, she picked up the microphone and held it close to the radio speakers, causing a short squeal of feedback as the voice continued:

Konstantin’s intro.
It can only work when the vibrations of those present are in complete harmony, and when their aims and intentions are pure.

It was spirit friend Konstantin Raudive (1909-74), and his familiar voice grew louder and stronger as he greeted each of us by name with a personal message. Here’s what he told me:

Last but not least…”
Finally, last but not least, Mark Macy. My dear friend, we bring our greetings to colleague Meek and the Uphoffs. Also to Hans Heckmann, with whom he realizes a beautiful job to spread ITC information. You know by experience, Mark, how dangerous drugs of all kinds can be. Try to warn humanity that they not only alter their present lives on your side, but also influence in a negative way their future lives. Go on with your experiences and you will see that the bridge to the States will soon be strengthened. Regina as your twin soul can help you a lot. Listen to her inner voice and you will be in the right way.

Well, that message had some surprises for me.

  • I’d been publishing Maggy’s work for a couple of years here in the States, translated to English by our mutual friend Hans Heckmann, but this was the first time I’d been greeted personally “on live radio,” so to speak, from the spirits at Timestream. It was an exhilarating experience for all of us.
  • Before my colon cancer in 1988 I’d been a heavy drinker and smoker and I’d dabbled in drugs over the years. After the cancer was removed, I became a teetotaler for about 20 years… even a strict vegetarian for the first five years. Nobody in the room that day in Luxembourg knew those details of my early struggles… nobody but me and our invisible friend Konstantin, apparently.
  • When Konstantin said “Go on with your experiences,” I assumed he meant “experiments” because I was usually busy in the early morning hours experimenting with my radios. But eventually I realized he meant just what he said. He was probably referring to the experiences that we all go through during a lifetime, contending with our earthy compulsions as we struggle to refine ourselves… to wrestle with our doubts and fears and resentments… to find our inner light. Experiments are just a tiny part of the ITC process, while our psychospiritual growth plays a huge part—striving for resonance with finer spirit.
  • The occasional use of drugs and alcohol can sometimes give us a fleeting glimpse of the spiritual realities going on around us (our “transpersonal” states). These drug-induced glimpses happen for better or worse (usually worse), and for some people more than for others, but the mental and spiritual debris from heavy drug or alcohol use can become clunky baggage that we drag along into our future incarnations.
  • Before that contact, Regina was my wife and best friend. Since then, I came to realize, she’s also been my soulmate, literally, as we’ve grown and struggled together through our dramas in this lifetime, and apparently in other lifetimes as well.

But Konstantin’s opening line was the key: ITC can only work when all participants in a contact are in harmony, on both sides of the veil. Any trace of fear, doubt, envy, or animosity in our world disrupts the bridge and creates inroads for shadow influences. Discord in ITC is a big problem, and on rare occasions can even be hazardous, as we’ll see in a moment.

The Harsch-Fischbachs at the time (mid 1990s) had been working with several different ITC systems involving radios, TVs, crystals, and ultraviolet lights, each assembled while following instructions from the other side. The system we were using that day in 1994 was called GA2. Here’s how it compared with two other systems—ESB and GA1:

One early ITC system in Luxembourg used the Eurosignal radio tone, transmitted 24/7 in western Europe, to get spirit contacts.
  • The ESB system, or Eurosignal Bridge, was tuned to the eurosignal, which (until 1997) emitted a strange signal, 24/7, in Western Europe at the bottom of the FM band—around 87 MHz. The radios in Maggy’s ESB system used that reliable signal as a means for her spirit friends at Timestream to make contact. The first ESB contact happened in August, 1986. Like a paging system, Maggy’s ESB allowed voice messages to be delivered to Earth but didn’t support two-way conversations.
  • GA1, or the first Gegensprechanlage (intercommunication) system, was developed in 1987 and essentially provided an open channel between Earth and the Timestream spirit group for uninterrupted, two-way dialog for a few minutes at a time. This was the system with potential dangers, as explained below.*  
  • GA2 was perfected by Timestream in 1991. Not a lot was written and published on that particular system, as far as I know, but I suspect it was a safer method of limited two-way communication, judging by the radio messages we received during our 1994 visit (above).
*Dangers of an open bridge, as explained in 1987, via radio, by “Technician,” one of The Seven finer beings (translated from German):
GA1 experiments are direct contacts with other dimensions. This means, when you speak to us in this manner unexpected possibilities are opening up for you. I advise you to let only mature and stable people attend GA1 sessions. Unwittingly, people with their thoughts set forces in motion in our dimensions. When using GA1 in public you risk not getting any contact at all if nonbelievers are present…. The decisions you and other participants make over this system trigger many possibilities in many worlds. Do not make any GA1 tape recordings except when we advise you and can protect you from unpleasantness. If you do not follow our advice and do record it, you run the risk of finding yourself in a parallel world the next morning. This danger does not exist when you use ESB, as this is not a direct contact system and is better suited for the Earth dimension.
The source is at the center of everything.

In other words, communication throughout most of the cosmos (level 3 and above) is apparently a smooth process: Entities (spirits) who resonate in honesty, trust, and good intentions simply exchange information with each other silently, mind-to-mind.

Communicating with us humans on Earth presents them with a challenge. We have a lot of shadowy motivations that we take for granted—our fears, animosities, suspicions… stuff we might not even be aware of. But our spirit friends at level 3 feel it clearly when they try to communicate with us. Our mental turmoil makes them bristle. Our troubled thoughts are probably as troublesome to them as computer viruses are to us.

So to establish an ITC bridge, spirits need to work with people on Earth who have clear, uncluttered minds or who can process their feelings quickly and effectively. That, I believe, is what they were trying to perfect with Maggy and Jules and their various ITC systems (ESB, GS1, GS2, and others).

I don’t think our spirit friends at level 3 and their “gatekeepers” (The Seven finer beings) have developed any sort of cosmic anti-virus program that can filter out our negative thinking… at least not yet. But I suspect they’e still looking for viable ways to open stable ITC bridges with Earth.

In 1995, I believe, The Seven were “testing the waters” with Maggy and our INIT group, to see how well a team of us humans—people from many walks of life forging a growing membership that would someday represent all of humanity—could resonate under ideal conditions with their guidance and support. I have to say we did pretty well for about five years!… as I explain here and there throughout this series.

For more information about the early development of the Luxembourg equipment, see these articles:

The rest of this article is simply a comparison of ITC results, between the superb and the mediocre. Along the way we’ll figure out why some radio results are superb and others are mediocre. It’s stuff we’ve been talking about throughout this series, but it really hits home on the radios!

We’ll compare Maggy’s superb results in Luxembourg to my own mediocre results in the States.

Then we’ll close with a glimpse at two forefathers of superb radio ITC experiments, who began their work in Europe in the 1970s—Bacci and Koenig—and who laid the groundwork for the “Spiricom” device developed later by Bill O’Neil and George Meek.

Maggy Fischbach’s Astonishing Radios

In order of appearance: SENKOWSKI center, MEEK upper left, HARMAN lower left, DEVILLE upper right.

Maggy recorded her radio contacts when Timestream said it was safe to record. She shared the recordings with trusted friends and colleagues, sometimes played them at conferences, and sometimes gave a copy to visitors who attended the sessions, but otherwise she rarely made the recordings public… aware of the potential dangers. Over the years I heard only a few of her recordings, which she sometimes brought to our annual INIT meetings.

Physicist Ernst Senkowski, though, visited Maggy numerous times in the late 1980s from his home in Mainz, Germany, sometimes in the company of my friend and mentor George Meek. The two of them observed many of the contacts coming through Maggy’s radios, and they were allowed to keep copies of some recordings.

The scientist Willis Harman and I invited Ernst Senkowski to the States in 1994 to address Harman’s Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) in San Francisco, and on his way to California Ernst spent a couple of days here in Colorado to visit Regina and me and to give a small presentation in Boulder that I arranged.

At one point during his visit, while I grilled chicken in the back yard, Ernst took Regina aside and said, “If Mark is getting involved in ITC, don’t be surprised if things start getting a little strange with him.” Regina laughed and replied, “Oh, that’s already happening, Ernst.” I think she was only half-joking. 🙂

Among the Harsch-Fischbach radio contacts Ernst played for the audience, the most intriguing was a contact from the late French-American chemist Henri Ste Claire de Ville, who spoke through the GA1 radios in English with a French accent.

I asked Ernst if I could have a copy of that contact, and when I drove him to his motel room after the presentation in Boulder, he made a copy on his dual-cassette player. Here’s the audio clip excerpt that he shared at his Boulder seminar, along with the complete transcript of the entire radio contact:

French-American scientist Henri Sainte Claire de Ville
Technician: Test. Project Lifeline, speaking in Timestream. DeVille: My name is Henry Sainte Claire DEVILLE. I left your world in 1881, and I am speaking to you in my name and in the name of our staff of LIFELINE, the scientists. Your projects, as well as from LIFELINE, as from TIMESTREAM, is to set fire to minds—to set fire to minds in your world, and in that moment to try to master time. I can give you a few explanations. The void dreams the universe, but the void is unconscious. Universe has consciousness and it can control the void. A strong force, the inertia of normality, reigns the universe. So the universe always chooses the same state as before. It sustains itself, it limits itself. I repeat: the universe is dreamt by the void. It is varied out of grains, grains of virtual existence, grains called selectons. Selectons are really tiny dots consisting of a circle rolled up compactly. Forever they roll back into the void, forever other bits of void roll back to replace them exactly. All these selectons roll up compactly in the same direction, thus time flows in one direction in the (material) universe. In our space, selectons are not rolled up, so there in the Never-Ever all time is one and timeless

The depth of Henri’s message was a little beyond my comprehension, so I never gave it a lot of thought. While writing this article, though, I think he means that the cosmos or “unconscious void” somehow “dreams” itself into existence, and then conscious entities throughout the cosmos more or less take control of what happens. A cosmic force of inertia tries to keep everything “normal.” As stuff leaves the conscious areas to return to the unconscious void, new stuff from the void arrives instantly to replace it. In material universes like ours at level 1, the stuff gets rolled up “in the same direction” into compact tubes, creating the illusion of time. In the finer universes (levels 3 and above, presumably), stuff doesn’t get rolled up like that, so “all time is one and timeless.” That, I think, is Henri’s theory of the cosmos—the theory held by the scientists who are members of his spirit group Lifeline.

If I’m interpreting Henri’s words correctly (which might not be the case), then his view of the cosmos is a little more agnostic (and more complicated) than mine. I believe there’s simply a source at the center of everything (God, Allah, Brahman…) that’s the epitome of perfect consciousness. Its constant stream of life-energy creates and nourishes the countless conscious beings and universes flourishing at all levels. Entities and realms closest to the source (at level 7) have the finest, purest vibration and are closest to “perfection.” Entities and worlds out in the fringes (at level 1) have the densest vibration and are the most “imperfect” or illusory. Time and space are just two of countless illusions out here in the fringes. That scenario makes more sense to me, and I hope it’s the more accurate of the two because….

One main problem with Henri’s view (not to say it’s wrong, just that it’s problematic for me, maybe because I don’t fully understand it) is that it puts morality into question. If everything simply emerges from an “unconscious void,” then there’s no perfect source at the center of everything setting an example of perfect behavior. Instead, everything, once it emerges from the void, can apparently do whatever it feels compelled to do, for better or worse.

I prefer to believe (and to believe strongly) that there’s a perfect source or principle at the center of everything, giving the cosmos a noble direction. In any case….

Henri Ste Claire DeVille was born in the Virgin Islands and studied in Paris. He’s best known for discovering a cost-effective way to make aluminum useful in industry, and for his skills as an award-winning university professor. A century after his death in 1881, Deville was drawn to the Project Lifeline spirit group that was communicating with George Meek’s Metascience foundation. Those communications were channeled through psychic mediums.

It’s important here to distinguish between MTC and ITC (mediumistic and instrumental transcommunication).

  • MTC: Lifeline spirit group was communicating mediumistically with George Meek (through the minds of psychically sensitive women).
  • ITC: Timestream spirit group, meanwhile, was communicating instrumentally with the Harsch-Fischbach couple (through their radios, TVs, computers, and other equipment).

So, during Meek and Senkowski’s visit to Luxembourg in 1987, Timestream and Lifeline were collaborating on a communication project with Earth, using ITC (Maggy’s GA1 system, in particular).

Timestream had told the Harsch-Fischbachs that both MTC and ITC involve a merging of minds on both sides of the veil, and the information that comes through to Earth is nearly always the product of collective consciousness. In other words, any “spirit message” is bound to contain some of the intended information from the spirit senders, but it’s also filtered by the thoughts, beliefs, and expectations of the human receivers… but in different proportions.

  • In MTC, they said, the message received on Earth is typically 20 percent “pure” and 80 percent filtered by the human mind. (That 20/80 proportion can vary a lot, depending on the clarity of the human mind—that is, how snug and safe it is against the turmoil in Earth’s shadow.)
  • In ITC (once a stable bridge can be established and sustained), the message received on Earth is typically 80 percent “pure,” and only 20 percent is filtered. (That 80/20 proportion is fairly reliable, since the ITC bridge can only work when minds at both ends of the bridge are clear… when their “vibrations are in complete harmony, and when their aims and intentions are pure.”)

So, let’s look at some of the challenges involved in establishing a stable ITC bridge.

My Radio Experiments

I tried EVP experiments with a tape recorder in the living room in 1991—shortly after meeting George Meek and learning about ITC—but I got no detectable voices. So, the following year I set up a basement lab, bought two broadband radios from Radio Shack, then added a third radio later on. I usually woke up around 2 or 3 am and spent a few twilight hours with the radios. I’d typically record for 45 minutes, then listen carefully to the playback for an hour or two and log the results. Then I’d shower and go to my tech-writing job at a startup company in Boulder.

That became my routine for the better part of a decade (though I soon quit tech writing to give my full attention to experimenting, writing, and speaking about ITC), with radio results ranging from mediocre to encouraging.

In order of appearance: MACY top left, EDISON top right, CUKOR bottom left, GUIGNÉ bottom center, O’NEIL bottom right, KONRAD THE CAT center. (not pictured: BECKWITH)

Following is a bullet-point synopsis of my radio experiments in the 1990s. (see more at worlditc.org.)

  • My first recognizable spirit voice happened several months into my experiments, in the summer of 1992. I’d asked what I could do to improve the contacts and if any breakthroughs would unfold, and the late Konstantin Raudive (whose spirit voice was becoming familiar among researchers at the time) whispered through the radio sounds, “Your mind’s too much in turmoil.” Getting my first discernible voice was an exciting moment, even though the faint message itself didn’t bode well for my experiments.
  • I got other short voices from inventor Tom Edison, Hollywood director George Cukor, a saintly French girl called Anne de Guigné, and others whom I couldn’t identify. (audio clips below)
  • All told, I got dozens of tiny voices, a few quite clear, others almost inaudible. I had two boxes filled with recorded cassettes that slowly collected dust in the basement. (A quarter-century later they’d get burned up with the house.)
Typical VLF antenna array… not very practical.
  • In February 1998 I got a phone call from Konstantin Raudive advising me to purchase a VLF converter for my radios “and a suitable VLF antenna” (see the previous article). I’d had a brief encounter with VLF radios as an electronics technician in the Navy in the early 70s, but a converter? Not a clue. Fortunately, a local friend (Rich Skovlin) found one. (I suspect it was spirit pal Bill O’Neil who came up with the idea of using a VLF converter in my lab, since he’d recently joined my spirit group after a lifetime of experimenting with electronics.) So I added a VLF converter to my radios. The problem now was a VLF antenna, which was typically a complex array of antennas that could be several miles long. To avoid neighborhood gossip (and maybe a lynch mob), I compromised with a 12-foot vertical antenna in the back yard, mostly hidden by the grape arbor just outside the window of the basement lab. I ran a wire from the base of the antenna, through the window well, into the radios.
  • Then things got interesting. Bill O’Neil had developed (with guidance and support from George Meek) the Spiricom device in the 1980s before his death in 1992 (while struggling for many years with alcoholism). After his death, he found peace, was encouraged by The Seven to continue his ITC work, and around 1997 started working with me. Apparently he created a Spiricom-like device on the other side, superimposed invisibly over the radios in my basement lab, and soon my radios were emitting a steady drone reminiscent of the device he’d developed in the 1980s. Bill and I worked with that system for several years, from each end of the bridge, struggling to get clear voices through, and had some encouraging results… but no major breakthroughs
  • On one occasion Bill’s voice came through, bristling in the radio noises: “Konrad the cat is Arthur’s pet.” Our cat, whom we’d named Konrad Lorenz Macy, had been killed in the back yard by marauding raccoons a few months earlier. And Arthur?…
  • An early-19th-Century Brooklyn journalist called Arthur Beckwith had joined Timestream in 1995 and was put in charge of monitoring the ITC journals and publications of our INIT group, especially my own Contact! journal. On one occasion Arthur’s voice broke through the radios in my lab, loud and clear: “Time just passes here.”
  • Bill O’Neil spent several years trying to converse with his Spiricom-like technique through my radios. I could hear the buzzing tones being modulated almost constantly, as though someone were talking, but the actual words were indiscernible. So I suggested that he start with vowel sounds—A-E-I-O-U—and maybe things could develop from that. Within days, the radios began to emit modulated tones: “A-E-I-O-U.”

Unfortunately, that didn’t lead to clear spirit voices that I could dialog with, and I think this is the reason why:

Clear communications from finer spirit can only come through clear minds, regardless of the techniques and technologies involved. I simply hadn’t achieved that mental clarity. That seems to be a basic truth with ITC (and maybe with all spiritual pursuits)—clear messages through clear minds.

Some of my radio contacts:

Raudive (barely audible): “Your mind’s too much in turmoil.”
Edison: “Thomas A to Winston.”
Cukor: “Cukor comes through, through the doorway.”
Guigné: (several unidentified voices, then…) “Definite! Comment desuela!” (or maybe “Com des uela!”)
ONeil: “Konrad the cat is Arthur’s pet.”
Beckwith: “Time just passes here.”
Unidentified male: “The face on Mars must be looking up at a spacecraft.”
ONeil: “A – E – I – O – U…”

That A-E-I-O-U message, I believe, came through a spiritside technology that Bill O’Neil developed, after his death, to talk through my radios. So, let’s compare that radio contact (above) to one of the dialogs that Bill had, before his death, using his Spiricom device (below). The spiritside device (above) produced a constant buzzing sound in my radios that was reminiscent of the buzzing tones generated by the Spiricom device (below) that he’d developed in his Pennsylvania farmhouse some 20 years earlier. Listen….

1980s dialog between Bill O’Neil (during lifetime) and the spirit of “Doc Mueller” through O’Neil’s classic “Spiricom” device. (Doc Mueller was the late Dr. George Jeffries Mueller, a physics professor at Orange Coast College in southern California, not the NASA scientist George Mueller as was mistakenly assumed early in O’Neil’s experiments. That mistake was pointed out to me several years ago by long-time ITC researcher Keith Clark.)

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After seven years of experimenting, I received only one long, reasonably clear spirit message through the radios (September 15, 1998)… but that turned out to be the beginning of the end of my radio experiments. Again, here’s why….

Negative spirit: “Let’s keep this secret close to us….”
Let’s keep this secret close to us, a reminder to make our secret radio-telephone calls on the high frequency band that will support the communications. For example… (The contact broke down for a few seconds, and the voices of the radio broadcast returned. Then the spirit voice resumed) …a 12-MHz venue. Should be 12 MHz. For direct dial, call 905-4448.

After that contact, I spent a few excited weeks getting a new-fangled flip phone for the lab, learning that “905” was a legitimate Colorado cell phone prefix, determining that 12-MHz is part of the shortwave band on my radios… then suddenly realized, wait a minute. Something’s not right.

The voice was similar to the clever, deceptive voice I’d gotten from a negative spirit on my answering machine two years earlier. And it was telling me I could actually call the spirit world? That certainly didn’t feel right.

Indeed, that radio message turned out to be from a negative spirit group inhabiting Earth’s shadow… where mental turmoil seems to be a way of life. Apparently the negative spirit group could sort of “resonate” with me and my radios more effectively than my finer friends at level 3 could.

It was shortly after that negative contact in 1998 that I abandoned my radio experiments after seven years of dedicated work with limited results. It was apparent by then that my mind was still “too much in turmoil,” as Konstantin had warned me early on. I was too susceptible to life’s dramas.

Before my cancer (which knocked me onto a spiritual path), I’d been busy writing and editing a series of books and anthologies about inner peace and world peace, focusing mostly on the endless dramas that keep disrupting our world and our lives, and how we could minimize them. Trouble was, I didn’t really have that inner peace myself at the time… kind of like a cookbook writtten by someone who’s never spent much time in a kitchen.

Even Dr. John Day, the surgeon who saved my life back in 1988 (and who later became a mentor) told me after the surgery, “Mark, I think you need to heal yourself before you try to heal the world.” Words to live by.

It’s only now, in my 70s, that I’ve detached pretty well from drama… now that I’ve come to realize (while observing Regina’s own spiritual pursuits) the one cosmic truth that’s been taught by wise men, visionary women, and all of the time-proven religions across the ages:

The only reality is the source at the center of everything. Everything else is illusion. All of the countless dramas of our world—no matter how personal or global, no matter how irritating or devastating—are, in effect, “nothingness” in the cosmic scheme. The only reality is the source. As we start to make conscious contact with the source (especially through meditation and prayer from the heart), the dramas of the world gradually start to diminish in importance. And that is the point at which we can start to heal ourselves and our world. Our job, then, is simply to hold onto the inner light, and let that true, perfect light do all of the healing. We’re just the vehicle… once we find that clarity.

Am I going to be tested again by the next drama? The next bolt out of the blue? Of course.

But as I spend more intimate time with the source, through meditation and prayer, those thunderclaps become less meaningful. I hear them, change what needs to be changed (only if it’s in my power to make changes), then return to that place of peace.

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Those two examples—Maggy Fischbach’s radio contacts and mine—give a pretty clear look at the possibilities and the challenges of ITC. It’s all (or mostly) about human minds and their ability (someday, hopefully) to resonate together in clarity and sincerity at a fine spiritual vibration.

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Appendix: Bacci and Koenig

A heavenly chorus sometimes sang through Marcello Bacci’s radio (see the picture directly below).
Marcello Bacci and Hans Otto Koenig.

At the top of the list of preeminent ITC radio forefathers are Marcello Bacci (Italy) and Hans Otto Koenig (Germany), who began their work independently in the mid-1970s.

Marcello Bacci used a classic “Normende” radio (pictured) that emitted spirit voices only in his presence. He was a kind, generous man with a good sense of humor, who opened his lab to small gatherings of people who sat around his radio and were often deeply moved by the recognizable voices of their departed loved ones. They sometimes heard words of wisdom: “Dear mothers, we have already told you that your loved ones suffer only if you are suffering. A day will come when the mysteries will be disclosed to you, the haze will be dissipated, and all of you will be embraced by a clear light. One day you’ll leave your body where you found it, to reach another order of being.” For a concise and heartfelt look at Bacci’s radio work, read this insightful report at “Association Transcommunication” (ATransC) written by Italian researcher Paolo Presi.

Hans Otto Koenig started his ITC experiments with radios, but soon created custom sound sources from his training as an acoustic engineer. Psychically sensitive, he found his spirit friends to be receptive to the custom sounds. Their messages to him were clear, prolific, and phenomenal. Early in an ITC session they’d often announce, “Contact field closed” (or maybe “secured”) meaning that confused spirits from Earth’s shadow couldn’t intrude on the dialog. If you want the full flavor of how psychic sensitivity, dreams, intuition, and resonance all come together in ITC research, read this exceptional article about Koenig, also at ATransC, written by Portuguese researcher Anabela Cardoso.

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19 Responses to ITC 07 — Spirits Talking Through Radio (E)

  1. Wayne's avatar Wayne says:

    Thank you for sharing this, Mark. Your conclusion (“The only reality is the source at the center of everything. Everything else is illusion…” etc.) is what I’ve come to see, as well. WB

  2. Vicki's avatar Vicki says:

    Thanks, Mark. Fascinating.

  3. John Day's avatar John Day says:

    Mark,
    I have been following along with your series of historical summaries, and enjoying the readings and the information.
    The history is good to revisit. It is a rich history. It will garner more and more attention as time goes by and human consciousness becomes more refined. There are things in these recent posts that you have not written about before. You seem to be “rounding up” this rich story which very few know about and many would love to doubt and disparage.
    I think this chronicle, if you will, is going to prove to be more and more important and helpful as time goes by.
    We are all just walking each other home.
    Spiritual guideposts, such as the messages about the value of harmony in maintaining contact bridges are good for us to contemplate as we continue to bumble along with our ego’s false pride.
    All of the shadow emotions which you reference just keep us in the mode of forgetting God.
    Everything in all dimensions and places and time is one Consciousness.

    • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

      You’re a mind-reader, John. Yes, I’m trying to round up everything I’ve learned. As you say, there are things in this series that I haven’t written before.

      ITC and the cosmos are kind of like a cosmic jigsaw puzzle. 20 years ago, I was overwhelmed by all this information, but over the years the puzzle pieces have been slowly falling into place.

      While writing this ITC series, they’re falling into place faster. I’ve had to reread (or at least skim) all the Contact! journals, the books posted on worlditc.org by Maggy Fischbach, Ernst Senkowski, Hildegard Schaefer and others. Lots of puzzle pieces there!

      I wake up some mornings with an a-ha moment, and another piece falls into place.

      Several times a day I tend to reread the article I’m currently working on, and more puzzle pieces fall into place as I try to organize and polish it.

      Whenever I think I have a pretty good idea of what the finished puzzle’s going to look like, another piece shows up (like Henri SC deVille’s radio contact complete transcript, which I noticed for the first time while re-reading Maggy’s book!), and I realize that the finished puzzle is way more complicated than I thought.

      LOTS of puzzle pieces still out there waiting. Probably “countless.”

      Anyway, by the end of the series, hopefully, I’ll have a clearer picture. Just doing the best I can.

      Mark

      • John Day's avatar John Day says:

        The lotus of the heart chakra (anahata) has 16 petals.
        Four of these petals are downturned. When they are active the person so blessed embodies and enacts the qualities of steadfastness, knowledge, love, and the ability to see the entire cosmos.
        Such as you are describing above.
        It is just a slice of the entire cosmos, but still…
        Some Sufi poet must have been such a one, for he said, “Thinkest thouself a puny form when within thee the whole universe is enfolded.”

        • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

          Those 16 petals of the heart chakra sound fascinating.
          They remind me of Mark Borcherding’s recent comments relating to Native American mysticism.
          I feel or “know” there’s a deeper truth in it all, but I haven’t yet figured out how to fit it into my understanding of things.
          I suspect it’ll all come together for me at some point, but (like all that ITC information 20 years ago) it’ll have to be patient til my brain can assimilate it and fit it together with what I understand…. 🙂
          Thanks John,
          Mark

          • John Day's avatar John Day says:

            Those esoteric petals of the heart chakra are always active in us, more or less, and in one degree or another. It is said that they can be known in a fully activated form in the subtle body by those who are far along in their meditation practice.
            In all of the surgeries I ever performed, I never saw a chakra!
            But I have complete confidence in scriptures which describe the intimate details of things experienced by advanced meditators.
            “The heart is the hub of all sacred places. Go there and roam,” said Bhagavan Nityananda, one who was established in this state of knowing.

            • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

              That explanation helps a lot. Thanks!
              If many meditators, past and present, have seen that 16-petal composition of the heart chakra during their meditations, I think my brain’s starting to feel safe adding it to its mental model of reality. I’ll do some exploring this weekend (me and google) to see what I can find out about that. See if there’s consensus.
              Thanks John,
              Mark

    • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

      Incidentally, the 80 percent / 20 percent figure, referring to the “purity” of ITC and MTC messages, came from the finer being Technician, as reported in the book by Maggy Fischbach and Theo Locher. Here’s the page on worlditc.org, and from there it passage can be found by searching on “four-fifths”.

      http://www.worlditc.org/c_01_lohf_part1.htm

      Mark

  4. John Day's avatar John Day says:

    So many books and teachings on kundalini and chakras.
    “The Sacred Power” by Swami Kripananda is excellent, not long, and not esoteric.
    “The Serpent Power” by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) was written in 1919, is expanded and more esoteric, and is definitive to this day.

  5. Mark Borcherding's avatar Mark Borcherding says:

    Mark Macy & John Day, the 16 lotus petals are on the Sri Yantra mandala (seen in the movie The Last Mimzy that I mentioned to Karyn Jarvie about her daughter Emma). The Sri Yantra mandala relates to Tripura Sundari who is described as the supreme consciousness (like ‘Source’ in your ITC writings) there is nothing that is not her, and she is even all that is no more, is not yet, and will never be … see this webpage: https://www.exoticindiaart.com/blog/tripura-sundari-the-ultimate-goddess/

    Tripura Sundari manifests as the Native American’s White Buffalo Calf Woman, the Hopi’s Spider Woman, etc…. Tripura Sundari and her various forms are whom my ITCs are with. After reading about Tripura Sundari how she relates to all ITC will be clear.

    The Last Mimzy video clip showing Sri Yantra mandala’s core at time 1:11
    note the Sri Yantra mandala forms a time-space bridge portal (Project Sothis) 🙂

    For more info and full picture of the Sri Yantra mandala see this webpage

    Sri Yantra Meaning

    • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

      Hi MarkB,

      I finally watched The Last Mimzy yesterday, after finishing the ITC series.

      Wonderful movie! Basically, some of the movie’s conclusions about the state (and fate) of the world are the same conclusions we got from our ITC spirit friends.

      All put together into an entertaining film.

      Thanks for that recommendation!

      Warm wishes,

      MarkM

  6. wendy's avatar wendy says:

    Hi Mark, I appreciate your compilation of the information you have collected and the inclusion of your recordings. So much of this information gets lost. Everything you are revisiting and consolidating helps to refresh, update, and integrate the material into a reintroduction of the projects so many have created to pass on for others to use as a springboard.

    {I also appreciate the comments on your posts and learn from them too. Hadn’t seen The Last Mimzy. I have experienced time shifts.}

    The clarity in the audio of Roudive’s message to you is a wonderful demonstration of the potential in this field. And his advice is universal. A great reminder of the work required to maintain a clear channel when aspiring to interact with a higher dimensional level of awareness.

    The caution is genuine. “The decisions you and other participants make over this system trigger many possibilities in many worlds. Do not make any GA1 tape recordings except when we advise you and can protect you from unpleasantness. If you do not follow our advice and do record it, you run the risk of finding yourself in a parallel world the next morning.”

    My visit was short term but induced by guides and monitored with the directive to participate and observe. “Do not telegraph your impression that you are different and anything is out of place.” It was a demonstration that we can indeed be transported to alternate timelines.

    – Clean slate. “Your mind’s too much in turmoil.” We live and we learn. Thank you!

    • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

      Hi Wendy,

      That sounds familiar (“Do not telegraph your impression that you are different and anything is out of place.”) It’s not the exact words, but the general feel I get during some dreams when I seem to be visiting a spiritual realm, probably at level 3. If I’m a little erratic in my thoughts or behavior, everyone seems to shy away or turn away. It’s obvious I don’t “fit” there at those moments (and I’d be more “at home” at level 2, a sort of holding/processing place where many people hang out for a while before settling in at level 3). But if I’m calm and simply observant in those level 3 visits, everything’s copacetic.

      I suspect those folks at level 3 get lots of surprises as people from Earth visit them while dreaming or meditating.

      For us, the visitors, I suspect it’s our spirit’s way of testing the waters of our upcoming afterlife experience.

      I haven’t seen “The Last Mimzy” either, which Mark Borcherding mentioned in his comment. It’s on my list of things to do once I get through these ITC articles.

      Mark

  7. gummantonio's avatar gummantonio says:

    Mark,

    I don’t know if I have missed it somewhere but whatever happened to Jules and Maggy Harsch-Fischbach. They just seemed to have disappeared.

    Thanks!

    • Mark Macy's avatar Mark Macy says:

      Hi Antonio,
      I’m not sure. Once INIT disbanded around the year 2000 I was no longer in touch with them, directly.
      I did get an occasional brief update (maybe 3 or 4 of them) from Ron Bryan, an American scientist who was working with them for a few years after INIT disbanded.
      My hope and prayer, of course, is that their extraordinary contacts continue to this day, and that they keep their results ‘close to the chest,’ so to speak, to avoid hardened skepticism and public criticism.
      In any case, if Maggy’s still alive, I’m pretty sure, at least, that she continues her loving mental rapport with The Seven and her many friends at Timestream.
      Friendship bonds like that, between good souls, are never broken.
      Just speculating, of course, but that’s the sense I get when I think of the couple.
      Mark

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