Imagine an afterlife world where kind, intelligent people live in refined communities like ours. These people once lived on Earth, and some of them want to stay in touch with the folks back home. So there are banks of telephone booths in the community where they can try to contact Earth. There are also labs where spirit people can assist departed scientists and other spirit-world experts to develop techniques to contact ITC researchers through their phones and other modern technologies of our modern world.

Sounds like science fiction… but inspired science fiction is often a glimpse into a greater truth, an emerging reality. ITC (instrumental transcommunication) is one such emerging reality.

Or, as the French sci-fi novelist Jules Verne told his countrymen a century after his death, What I can see here far exceeds any fiction I could have produced. (Ce qui m’est pemis de voir ici depasse de loin toute fiction que j’ai pu produire.) He went on to describe a fantastic paradise world at level 3 where most people awaken after they die. It’s a world a lot like Earth, but a sort of refined, virtual-reality existence. Things are materialized and moved largely by thought, although tools, vehicles, and machines are still an option (until they move to level 4). In any case, their virtual world at level 3 is as solid and real to them as ours is to us.

Over the years lots of people have reported getting a surprise phone call from a deceased loved one (and there’s been good research to back it up), but this article is mainly about the experiences of three ITC researchers who collectively got lots of spirit contacts through their phones, radios, TVs, computers, and other devices late last century.

Here we look at those researchers, myself included, who got those phone calls from the other side.

We were associated with INIT, the International Network for Instrumental Transcommunication, which was established in 1995 around the extraordinary work of Maggy Fischbach of Luxembourg, who received innumerable spirit phone calls, sometimes on a daily basis. Other INIT members only got a few. I myself received 8, including those left on my answering machine. Friedrich Malkhoff of Germany got more than a dozen.

Let’s look at those spirit phone calls received by INIT and listen to a few of them.

Along the way we’ll try to figure out how these spirit phone calls are even possible, and at the end we’ll address the key questions: Could spirit phone calls ever become mainstream here on Earth? If so, how can we help make it happen?

Maggy Fischbach

Maggy Fischbach of Luxembourg received dozens of spirit phone calls—maybe hundreds—over a 15-year period starting in the mid-1980s. She recorded many of those conversations and let trusted friends and colleagues listen to them, but not the general public… for several reasons.

She and her spirit friends generally agreed that the calls themselves—the audio recordings—might be problematic for many people. Instead of inspiring and educating everyone, as intended, they would boggle many minds, stirring up doubts and fears that could lead to hardened skepticism and contempt.

As one example of Maggy’s phone calls, here’s an excerpt from a call with her main spirit communicator, Swejen Salter, who calmly described some of the fantastic realities of her world at level 3. The entire phone call lasted more than 20 minutes. (Translated from German)

Maggy: Do you carry on any space research?  Swejen: No, there’s no technical space program on the third level like you have in your world, but there are totally different possibilities open to us. We can travel in space mentally and with our mind visit other dimensions and other planets to explore them. It’s also possible to travel here in our world with the help of large dirigible blimps or hot air balloons. There are aircraft—small two-seaters which are used by airplane enthusiasts. Many people use helicopters, which we call zelicopters here. They are similar in appearance to helicopters but fly according to a different physics, and therefore their technical construction is different from their counterpart on Earth. There is also surface travel here, mainly in electrical automobiles and solar-powered vehicles. But to travel beyond our world I can enter into level 4 in order to transfer myself mentally to other realities and get in contact with entities of other dimensions. While here at level 3 we live on the planet Marduk with three suns, there exist many other planets. Richard often travels to these planets to get to know the inhabitants. These travels are not comparable to space travel from your world as far as space and time are concerned. Richard’s trips to other planets give him the impression of day-long experiences while he is only away from me a few minutes.  Maggy: That is impressive. Do you take part in these travels, too?  Swejen: I prefer other possibilities. If it gets too noisy in the station I withdraw and go to quieter places. We have a beautiful, spacious home. Compared to homes in your world it looks like a rented apartment of approximately 400 square meters (4,000 square feet). This apartment alone opens many dimensions to us because our life in it is not tied down to nor limited by space and time. When I walk out the back door of the apartment, which on Earth might open to a small garden, I can go into the most immense, most beautiful garden imaginable. Everything looks as real as your world looks to you. But I do not have to travel thousands of miles to see it. I merely go through the back door to visit exotic parks, take a stroll on beautiful beaches, or admire a sunset across the ocean.  Maggy: That sounds like science fiction.  Swejen: For me it is reality and I have the opportunity to see many worlds. However, I can only see things that actually exist.  Maggy: Still, everything you see or can touch, all vehicles, even the nicest car, the most beautiful house in our world or in your world, is an illusion of the mind.  Swejen: Yes, that is correct.  Maggy: But as long as we need to live in these illusions, we should enjoy them.  Swejen: Right. I shall go to a beautiful world today. Just wait for what is approaching you today! You, too, and Jules will be in another nice world this evening…

Maggy assumed that she and Jules would just have nice dreams that night, but they took a walk at dusk and by chance arrived in a park. As they sat on a bench, the colorful sunset glistened on the water, and ducks and small birds approached them as though they were all one big, happy family… no hesitation or trace of fear. She felt as though they’d been transported to another world.

In another phone call Swejen introduced Maggy to what she calls “dispassing points” or “dispassier points,” referring to locations in the cosmos where dimensions cross. Swejen explained that beings from various dimensions and worlds can visit each other through those dispassing points. It’s how she, her partner Richard Francis Burton, and other Timestream folks (those who are approaching level 4 in their spiritual development) can travel to other worlds for vacations or exploratory adventures.

(Unfortunately, I can’t find the transcript of that phone call about dispassing points. I think it got lost in the fire. So I’ll digress for a moment….)

An aside about “X”: Dispassing points are what we generally think of as space-time portals or interdimensional gateways… and I think they’re probably a fundamental aspect of life throughout the cosmos—the means by which diverse cultures everywhere (at least those beyond level 3) can visit and interact with each other as long as they resonate spiritually.

And that got me thinking this morning (2023.11.7), oddly enough, about the letter X. The X seems to be the best symbol we have in our world—at least here in the west—to represent dispassing points… places where many minds can come together… where dimensions cross. It’s become a popular symbol, with the X-Files TV show, Generation X, the X-Men superheroes, the Xmas abbreviation, the x variable in algebra, the recent rebranding of the Twitter social network as X, the click-to-close X in the top right corner of windows on our computer screens…. Whew! Lots of Xs out there! And while revamping this website (macyafterlife) earlier this year, I wrote several “X” articles. Each X article summarizes a series of articles on this site like an index or appendix to the series. (Light X, Terra X, Philosophy X, etc.) Why did I choose the letter “X” that springtime morning? Well, it just felt right at the time. It was only this autumn morning when I woke up with a big X filling my head and pushing me to do some online digging.

So as far as our symbols on Earth go (and they really don’t go very far in the grander scheme of the cosmos), the X could be given some weight as a symbol of intersection. Why are our symbols insignificant in the grander scheme of the cosmos? Well, nearly all entities throughout the cosmos communicate with thought impulses. They communicate directly with each other, mind to mind. So as a general rule, symbols play only a minor role in their communications, if any. And cultures who do use symbols extensively to communicate are probably the ones living in the denser universes here at level 1… like us humans and maybe some extraterrestrials. In fact, The Seven finer beings told Maggy during one phone call that they don’t particularly enjoy all of our symbols that they have to contend with while communicating with us through ITC systems. They’re an unavoidable obstacle to ITC.

Alphabets with all of their symbols were developed on Earth long ago, after we humans had somehow, for some reason, closed down our psychic sensitivities. We started communicating with words and pictures instead of telepathically. Our entire western civilization today is built largely around our illusory symbols and their capricious meanings. (If you’re interested, here’s a fascinating history of the western alphabet.) And symbols of China, India, and the Middle East? I wouldn’t know where to begin!

(Maggy, Swejen, Yang, and you other kind, patient folks, sorry for this diversion. Back to spirit phone calls…)

The transcripts of some of Maggy’s phone dialogs were published in her long-out-of-print CETL INFOnews journal (and a few of those transcripts are scattered around this website). She also published some of them in her book, Breakthroughs in Technical Spirit Communication. As I mentioned in the previous article, I suspect that her issues of CETL INFOnews and her personal archives could someday become important historical documents!

Oh, one more important point about Maggy’s contacts and the reasons she didn’t share them publicly: ITC contacts could not only stir up fear and skepticism among the public, but under certain conditions they can be dangerous (which we’ll explore in the next article about radio contacts).

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The spirit phone calls below were received by Fritz Malhoff and me (plus a couple of my colleagues here in the States). They provide a good cross-section—their quality and content ranging from inspiring and crystal clear… to informative but other-worldly… to fascinating and friendly.

(There was also a disturbing call or two from a “negative spirit group” that was trying to disrupt our work. We’ll listen to one of them as well.)

Friedrich Malkhoff

Fritz Malkhoff received this phone call from the late Konstantin Raudive at a time when ardent skeptics were denouncing ITC as a hoax “because spirits don’t breathe.” Raudive tries to set the record straight.

FM: Guten Morgen, lieber Konstantin Raudive!  KR: Ich hoffe, dass Sie mich hoeren koennen, Friedrich Malkhoff, und dass Sie mich auch atmen hoeren koennen.  FM: Ja, ich hoere beides.   KR: Es scheint, dass das Atmen bei Ihnen eine der wichtigsten Beschaeftigungen auf Terra im Moment scheint in diesen Transkontakten.  FM: Ja, bei mir persoenlich nicht, lieber Konstantin Raudive.   KR: Ich weiss, dass Sie damit kein Problem haben und wollte Sie informieren, dass eine neue Bruecke aufgebaut wurde, welche die Stationen Schweich und Luxemburg noch enger verbinden wird.

FM:  Good morning, dear Konstantin Raudive!  KR: I hope that you can hear me, Friedrich Malkhoff, and that you can hear me breathe.  FM: Yes, I hear both.  KR: It seems that breathing is the main concern with you on Terra at the moment regarding these transcontacts.  FM: Yes; not with me personally, dear Konstantin Raudive.  KR: I know you have no problem in this respect and wanted to inform you that a new bridge has been built which will make the link between Schweich and Luxemburg stations still closer.

Fritz received more than a dozen spirit phone calls in the 1990s, most of them from the prolific Konstantin Raudive, who, with his wry wit (as we’ll see when he calls my friend Sarah in a moment), puts the “dead” in dedicated. Besides Raudive, Malkhoff also received phone calls from:

• Hermann von Keyserling (who’d died a half-century earlier) and
• Ishkumar, one of The Seven finer beings (whose message to Fritz was in the previous article).

Hermann von Keyserling (1880-1946) was a German-Russian philosopher who coined the term Führerprinzip, suggesting that certain gifted people were born to rule. That idea, of course, is as problematic as Earth’s symbiosis.* It could produce Plato’s philosopher king who brings peace and order by spreading virtue and selflessness, or it could sink into Social Darwinism, where angry people with money and power take charge and spread conflict and chaos. Keyserling happened to get involved in Malkhoff’s spirit group “Kleeblatt” (cloverleaf) ☘️ at a time when Malkhoff was working with the Harsch-Fischbach couple and their Timestream spirit group to develop a new ITC device called “Meza.” (More about that in the next article.) Why the name Cloverleaf? Maybe because it was an effort to establish a 3-point resonance between Earth researchers and their spirit groups Kleeblatt and Timestream at level 3.

*To me, symbiosis means 1) to help and support each other (mutualistic), 2) to live and let live (commensalistic), 3) to squabble and try to lord over each other (competitive), 4) to take things from each other (parasitic), or 5) to intentionally harm each other (predatory). I think these symbiotic relationships are prevalent throughout nature and social systems of our world, while most of the cosmos operates only on #1 and #2. If that’s the case (as I believe), then it helps to explain the challenges that face ITC and other means of opening communications with bright beings in finer worlds. We first have to become more win-win and live-and-let-live in our relationships with each other in order to work together in harmony, and to distance ourselves from those who cannot.

Keyserling’s voice is strangely high-pitched, so I dropped it down an octave to sound a little more normal. You can hear both the original and the “normalized” versions.

FM: Ja!  HK: Wir freuen uns, Ihnen mitzuteilen, dass die Bruecke zu Ihnen jetzt geschaltet ist.  FM: Ah, es ist so schoen!  HK: Wir werden uns ab jetzt regelmaessig melden. Diese Bruecke zu Ihnen nennt sich die MEZA- Kleeblatt Bruecke.  

FM: Yes!   HK: We are pleased to inform you that the bridging to you is connected now.  FM: Ah, that’s beautiful!  HK: From now on, we will contact you regularly. This bridge to you is called the MEZA-Cloverleaf bridge.

So Keyserling became one of the main communicators in Malkhoff’s new spirit group, Cloverleaf or Kleeblatt.

Malkhoff also received a snippy phone call from a negative spirit imposter identifying itself as “a nature spirit.” (Days earlier, Maggy in Luxembourg had received an inspiring phone call from the highly advanced spirit of nature called Harxeli, who acknowledged the problems being caused on Earth by the negative spirit group led by an imposter called “Afra.”)

So here’s Malkhoff’s snippy phone call from the negative spirit imposter:

FM: Ist das die Kleeblattgruppe?  NS: Ich heisse nicht Kleeblattgruppe. Ich kenne Sie.   FM: Wie ist Ihr Name bitte?  NS: Ich habe keinen Namen, ich bin ein Natur-Geist.  FM: Ein Natur-Geist?  NS: Ja.

FM: Is this the Kleeblattgruppe (Shamrock group)?  NS: My name is not Kleeblattgruppe. I know you.  FM: What is your name please?  NS: I don’t have a name, I am a nature spirit.  FM: A nature spirit?   NS: Yeah.

We INIT members asked our spirit friends if they could prevent these negative spirit contacts. They said there was little they could do. Negative spirits, they explained, are invariably attracted to troubled emotions in human relationships. In our case, in 1996, those troubled emotions were being stirred up largely by angry skeptics and jealous colleagues. Their hatred and envy acted as a sort of homing signal for negative spirits from Earth’s shadow. To insulate ourselves from the negativity, they advised, Unite your efforts and you will be strong. Avoid contact with those on your side who do not know where they belong. (9602, p2)

Mark Macy (and Friends)

In late January 1994 I connected in-line recording devices to our three landline phones—two extensions on the home phone (kitchen and bedroom) and a separate line in my office. I’d gotten my first spirit phone call from Raudive earlier that week but couldn’t record it, so in-line recorders quickly became an integral part of our home, with the hope I might get more of these calls.

Meanwhile, excited by my first spirit phone call, I announced it to close friends and colleagues, and so a week later George Meek and Sarah Estep were both ready when they got their first phone calls from Raudive. Here they are:

George Meek

George Meek (1910-1999) helped revolutionize the climate-control industry, earning a small fortune from a series of patented technologies that enabled the air conditioning of skyscrapers. After Meek retired in the 1970s, he and his wife Jeannette embarked on a life of world travel and research into the true nature of man. Their journeys led them to men and women from many walks of life who had an amazing range of shamanic (or psychospiritual) skills… from energy healing and psychic surgery to mediumship and ITC. George visited Maggy and Jules in Luxembourg on several occasions and helped them with their research. I had the great fortune of befriending George at a conference in 1991 (a year after the death of his wife), and he introduced me to the Harsch-Fischbach couple the following year.

Here’s Konstantin Raudive’s phone call to George Meek in 1994—20 years after Konstantin died, and 5 years before George himself would die. (George was still grieving since his wife’s death, and I think that’s probably why Konstantin’s voice sounds slow and sad, even though his message is warm and uplifting. It’s empathy in the truest sense of the word; Konstantin could feel and was affected by George’s grief.)

GM: Good morning, this is George Meek.  KR: This is Konstantin Raudive. George, my friend, at last we succeeded in contacting you. Jeannette is beside me, and she wants to give you all her love. This is Konstantin Raudive. This is the first contact you get from us. I suppose that you can hear me.  GM: I can hear you very well. Very plainly.   KR: Fine, so this is the beginning of a new story, a new chapter, George. You are a very good friend of ours, even if we haven’t met. We will continue this. This is the first bridge we succeeded to build to the States. Mark was contacted, and I must interrupt now.   GM: Thank you, dear friend. You may not be able to hear me, but I want to take this occasion to say . . . beep (broken connection, end of contact)

[I suspect that, yes, Konstantin and Timestream could “hear” George, even after the call was disconnected, since they heard George’s thoughts and feelings, not his voice. ITC contacts are formed from a psychic connection between Earth and spirit.]

Sarah Estep

Sarah Estep (1926-2008) and Konstantin Raudive (1909-1974) shared a common interest. They devoted the final years of their lives to EVP experiments (capturing spirit voices on audiotape). So it was no coincidence that Sarah also got a phone call from Konstantin in January 1994. She’d founded AAEVP, or American Association for Electronic Voice Phenomenon, in 1982 and spent a quarter-century dedicated to the work. Konstantin and Sarah both knew for certain that life continues after we die, usually in blissful paradise surroundings, and they were both committed to sharing that certainty with the world.

Konstantin also had a good sense of humor, so when he called Sarah and identified himself, Sarah exclaimed, “Dr Raudive! How are you?” and then turned on the tape recorder to capture his wry opening quip for posterity:

KR: I’m as fine as a “dead one” can be. Dear Sarah, thank you very much for everything you did for the propagation of the voices. We tried and succeeded in building this bridge to the States. You are one of the first who are contacted by this means. Thank you very much for all the work you did. We are very proud and honored that we could contact you. I must interrupt now. This was the first contact. This is Konstantin Raudive speaking. SE: Thank you so much!

My Own Phone Calls from Konstantin Raudive

Konstantin called me eight times throughout the late 90s. Some calls were left on my answering machine, but sometimes we got to chat, as in these two cases.

My longest phone conversation with Raudive lasted 12 minutes. The clip below contains the key excerpts from that long phone call, spliced together into a single audio file. (The complete conversation can be heard at the end of another article, here.)

MM: As far as the ITC progress here in Colorado with my group and my efforts, how soon do think we’ll able to expand into television contacts and computer contacts, or are we going to stick with voice for quite a while?  KR: Well as we see it, the first good voices will come through in the fall of this year, and it will develop on that.   MM: I see. I’m thinking of incorporating subtle energy technologies into the system on my side, getting a moebius loop and a caduceus coil. Do these things sound like a good idea?  KR: Why, sure, a very good thought of you, and you will have to wait for the things that our group can tell you.   MM: Okay. Can you tell me about the equipment that you use to produce such a perfect, almost perfect voice on Earth? That must take a lot of work on your side.   KR: Well, it depends on your reception, or mainly on your psychic reception, because you are much more psychic than some people who claim to be one.  MM: That surprises me.  KR: It’s really not surprising.  MM: Um, do you have actual equipment on your side, as well as the thoughts and the psyche?…  KR: You know that we use equipment, and we intend to give plans our equipment and to send them through Hans. We also wanted draw a sort of a map of our world and drop it into your world. It will be done in the next weeks and months.  MM: That’s tremendous. That’s wonderful. Oh boy. Do you have any messages that I can pass on—pass along—to Hans Heckmann or George Meek or Sarah?  KR: Well, I wanted to contact them all, but we here decided that you are the person who is the main experimenter (in the States). You are the, uh—I don’t like the word “leader”—but you are the manager, so to say, so please give all of our esteem to Sarah, to Hans, to George, to all them. We will contact them in time.  MM: I too have been trying to avoid words like “leading” and “managing.” It’s not easy on Earth to develop social systems that are based on nonhierarchical…   KR: Don’t try to avoid it, friend Mark, because these are systems implanted in your world, and you will have to deal with them. But it’s important you assume the role, and all else will be done, as it’s only for the common cause.  MM: Okay. What we’re trying to establish with INIT, I think, is more of a network on Earth, as opposed to a hierarchical or bureaucratic-type organization, a network without formal structure. I think that can be done maybe with the Internet.  KR: That is fact, because you are one of the essential main points of this network. You are one big dot on it, do you understand?  MM: Thank you.  KR: From this big dot there are departures for other dots, smaller dots, and it’s only from this big dot that ramifications may be made.  MM: I’ll do everything I can to make this work, this INIT…  KR:  We know it, Mark. Without that we wouldn’t have contacted you. And don’t be afraid of small, personal differences.  MM: Okay.  KR: You understand.   MM: Yes, please convey my love to Bill O’Neil, Jeannette, Swejen, everybody at Timestream….  KR: I will do that. Good-bye, my friend.  MM: Good-bye, my friend.  (click)

Some of the main points of that phone conversation:

• Establishing an ITC bridge can be a huge challenge for our spirit friends at level 3 as they contend with our earthly limitations. 1) They have to contend with time and space just to find us, and then, if they decide we’re serious and suitable for ITC, they establish a portal at our location (home or lab or whatever) for future visits. 2) Being “suitable” means we need to be psychically sensitive with a strong, focused will, and we have to be kind and sincere. 3) They can see a likely “timeline” of how the project should develop, but many unforeseen events in the researchers’ rollercoaster lives can alter the timeline.
• Researchers follow their inner voice or intuition in their experiments—whom they wish to contact, what equipment to use, etc. As an ITC bridge is established, the spirit group has a clearer understanding of what will be needed and what will work. Our expectations and theirs all come together in a field of consciousness that evolves as a resonant field of life-energy.
• The spirits at level 3 live in a world similar to ours but subtler, formed mostly by their collective thoughts and expectations. When they interact with us on Earth, I think their surroundings are sort of mentally shaped to resemble ours. In ITC, I believe their equipment materializes and evolves in a way that will resonate with our equipment and our thoughts and expectations.
• A “map of their world” would certainly have been fascinating, but as far as I know it was never received. I can’t even imagine what it would look like. Our world feels so solid and fixed to us that we can reproduce it in detailed globes, maps, and photographs that represent our reality with some accuracy for an extended period of time. Their world, I believe, is much more malleable and subject to change. It can evolve and change quickly with the collective consciousness of the inhabitants. So creating a “map” would seem challenging.
• Our spirit friends viewed our INIT group, spread across Earth, as “points on an image,” like dots spread out on a computer screen. Key members were large dots, and other members were smaller dots. Only from the key members could new connections (“ramifications” for new members) be formed. Ideally, that would allow a more resonant evolution of the group… though in our case some mistakes were made in that regard. Sustaining resonance in any group on Earth is challenging, with all our mixed feelings stirred up by our complicated symbiosis. Still, that idea of “points on an image” is the best solution I can imagine in trying to sustain a resonant group in our world, as long as all the members do the necessary inner work to refine themselves, such as fostering conscious contact with the source.
• Add to that a nonhierarchical, nonbureaucratic network of people—like a worldwide Zoom meeting of kind, sincere, supportive people—and I think we have makings of a stable, viable organization in our troubled world.
• “Small, personal differences” are inevitable in any human group, and they need to be resolved. As long as everyone is honest, open, and oriented to the finer motivations of the source (the principle, God… whatever term is preferred), the resolution should go smoothly.

These are the kinds of insights that ITC could provide to our world someday, once humans are ready.

In another phone call, Konstantin gave me tips on how to configure the radios in my basement lab for better ITC reception. He suggested I get a “VLF converter”… whatever that was. (In the next article I’ll explain how I chased down a VLF converter, compromised on an antenna, and experimented with it for several years with spirit friend Bill O’Neil, who, with the support of George Meek, had developed the “Spiricom” device before his death.)

It was the morning of February 6, 1998. I was in my basement lab with the radios on, but feeling a little down and sluggish. The phone on the dresser behind the radios rang and I answered. It was Konstantin Raudive. He, too, sounded sluggish and spoke in a slow, halting way, telling me, “… You must purchaze a… LF converter….” Then the call ended.

Just hearing Konstantin’s voice knocked me out of my doldrums, so when the phone rang again a few minutes later my mind was clear and receptive. This is that second call:

MM: Hello… yes.  KR: I’ll try to make it clearer this time. It’s a VLF receiving converter. It’s a receive-radio-navigation beacon, and you have standard frequencies—ship-to-shore, and European LW broadcasts. You have also a 1750-meter license-free band, and so on. And you can have a converter. You simply connect the VLF converter to your HF radio’s antenna input, and a suitable VLF antenna. Then you convert the entire VLF band, say 10 kilohertz to 500 kilohertz, up to 4010 to 4500 kilohertz, respectively. MM: Okay. Wonderful! KR: This is technical advice from our side.  MM: Thank you very much, Konstantin!

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So, will spirit phone calls like these ever become mainstream here on Earth? I think it’s inevitable, once certain conditions are in place. Listed in order of their importance:

1. Telephones continue to be popular.
2. The general public becomes aware of our kind, sincere spirit friends at level 3 and can resonate with their kindness and sincerity. (The public also becomes aware of Earth’s shadow and its troubled entities that “resonate” with cruelty and deception but have little effect on kind, sincere people working and playing together in harmony.) In any case, public awareness is key, since our collective thoughts in our world have a huge influence on their world at level 3 and determine to what degree they can interact with us through a psychospiritual rapport.
3. People allow their spiritual awareness and spiritual practices, coupled with kindness and sincerity, to evolve into greater psychic sensitivity.
4. The general public begins to acknowledge those rare humans who have a strong, focused will that causes big, imperceptible changes in their surroundings.
5. People love each other, love the cosmos, and love our friends at level 3.

Those are some of the main conditions that (I believe) would allow spirit phone calls to be just one of many mainstream miracles that will someday manifest in our world.

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