Revelations 5: After We Die, the Basics

Revelations 1: Our Ancient Past
Revelations 2: Our Cosmic View: Fact and Fancy
Revelations 3: Dramas of Living on Earth
Revelations 4: Dramas of Dying on Earth
Revelations 5: After We Die, the Basics
Revelations 6
: When Spirits Intervene
Revelations 7: How ITC Works
This article is the exception. The other articles in this series focused almost entirely on messages received from The Seven finer beings whom our spirit friends often call the Rainbow People. The messages in this article are mostly from our spirit friends themselves—people who awakened in that Eden paradise world (at level 3) after a lifetime on Earth at level 1 (or, in the case of Swejen Salter, after a lifetime on Varid, which she says is one of Earth’s parallel planets with a much richer history in what they considered multidimensional sciences like ITC). The spirit people at level 3 have been cleansed enough (spiritually and intellectually) to live in peace and harmony, but they’re still “earthy” enough to resonate with us in order to get involved in projects like ITC that involve close communications and relationships between Eden (level 3) and Earth (level 1). (More about that at the end of this article… as a short segue to the next article.)

The first message puts our afterlife destiny in perspective with our current lifetime on Earth.

We Are Travelers (ITC Gem 38)
composed by Latvian psychologist Konstantin Raudive
in August 1986, 12 years after his death:

<< Existence today, with its many levels of spiritual and physical being, could be compared to a motorway that comes from anywhere and leads to anywhere. Travelers move along the motorway, stopping here or there for a while, and then continue their journeys.
Humans on Earth are those sitting in a motorway service area. They believe their stay there to be their entire life and the only form of existence. Most of them see little or nothing of the motorway, as they are completely absorbed in the service area. They forget what had happened before—the journey or the service area.
Even though the service area is only a service area, its visitors would benefit from making an effort to keep it in good condition, since new guests are always arriving.
Unfortunately, service area guests at the present time do not at all behave accordingly. They contaminate it, as the industrialized countries do, or they allow too many guests to stop off at once until there is no space or service available, and there is nothing more to eat or drink.
There is a purpose for the service area. Travelers could recover there and gather strength for the journey ahead. They could study roadmaps and get an understanding of the motorway, since the coming journey is inevitable.
But people muddle themselves in the service area and get drunk and distracted… and when it’s time to leave, they no longer know where to go.
For sure, the Earth is no paradise, but there is no inherent need to make it a vale of tears. 
Every research, every science should have one underlying purpose: to inform and to serve the traveler….
At level 3 in the Beyond, the human being finds their way back to their proper self. When I was living on your side, I always tried to be somebody other than who I really was; most people try to present a self-image that is not really accurate. Now that I am here, I assert in closer accord with my innate ego (or spiritual self). >>

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Living at Afterlife Level 3 (ITC Gem 2 and ITC Gem 16)
composed by Timestream director Swejen Salter
shortly after her arrival at level 3 in 1987.

<< We live on a Saturn-size astral planet called Eden or Marduk with three suns, so it is never completely dark. Our world orbits one sun and receives light from two other nearby stars. A single, large river flows 100 million kilometers across the entire planet, the deepest spot in the river being 17,000 meters, the widest spot 3,700 meters. The planet with its Riverine communities was all created by human minds, yet is as much a solid-seeming reality to its spiritual residents as Earth is to you.
Our world is similar to your world. We have a body like yours, but it is of an etheric substance of much higher vibration than your dense body in your dense material world. No physical diseases exist here. Missing body limbs grow again.
We live in comfortably furnished homes. The surrounding landscapes are impressive and beautiful. Many animal species exist here which are unknown on Earth, such as paradise-like birds and colorful butterflies with wings the size of frisbees. Vegetation ranges from microscopic algae to giant trees. Many buildings are made of wood. The temperature is very mild.
About 60 billion humanoids live here along the river… together with other life forms… with humans who before their bodily death lived on other planets… with dwarfs, giants, and gnomes and with bodiless (formless?) entities. They continue to cultivate friendships and partnerships.
The average age of all those who passed over to us from Earth becomes 25 to 30 years. If they died in old age, they awaken here in full consciousness, at the prime of life, after a regenerating sleep that lasts about six weeks of Earth time. In some cases, it can be shorter. The children arriving on the third level are lovingly accepted and cared for by their relatives who live here. The children grow up quickly until they have reached the age of 25 to 30 years.
Personality and character are not changed by the process of dying. You do not wake up on the third plane with new knowledge. Mental-emotional problems and conflicts are not abolished yet. Though there is no more physical pain here, we still know mental anguish and the pain of the soul.
There are many here who never sent a person from their door because he was lower on the social ladder, had different political views or another religion. Some of them ask themselves, “Why am I sharing this planet with cheats, adulterers, liars, thieves, and those who indulged in excesses and were disloyal?!”
They know that these other souls cannot harm them, but they are terribly upset and disappointed that they must be here, among them, rather than in a promised land.
Almost everyone arrives here with false hopes and expectations, some because of lack of spiritual understanding, others because of their religious teachers who had a very incomplete view of this world.
Many here led a good life on Earth but were not perfect. People who occasionally lie are not bad as long as they do not hurt anyone else with their deception. People who are unjust out of ignorance. or because they act in haste, are not bad people.
Though people arrive here with the same psychological and emotional nature they had when they died, shortcomings and imbalances can be overcome through rapid learning.
You do not put away your sexuality, as it is a truly human characteristic. Sexual partnerships exist, provided both partners harmonize and desire it. We eat and drink like you do, but our food is produced synthetically. To put it another way, we more or less materialize physical food. The meat which some still enjoy here is only a reproduction of matter. No animal has to die for another being. >>

Note: Many Earth activities no longer serve a purpose at level 3, but they continue by popular demand among former Earth-dwellers—having sex, eating delicious foods, living in nice homes, traveling in vehicles, strolling in beautiful parks, swimming along soft, sandy beaches….

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Rest and Recreation at Level 3 (ITC Gem 19)
by Luxembourg ITC researcher Maggy Fischbach,
quoting her spirit friend Swejen Salter

Swejen says, << We too are overcome by a certain tiredness after long and hard work. It is not comparable to physical exhaustion but rather like the human need for change and relaxation. This relaxation is provided and takes but a short time as you measure it. >>
She spoke of recreation centers frequented by hard-working people in the astral planes.
<< The recreation building we are in at the moment has the shape of a huge dome. Clouds are moving overhead although we are not in open space. >>
Swejen said the hall interior is patterned after nature, with beautiful gardens, indescribable colors, soul-penetrating music, and flowers that emit not only lovely fragrances but soft music of the spheres as well. Some recreation centers have summer activities in beautiful, earth-like settings of lush green. Others have snowy landscapes with winter activities available.
Newcomers to the astral planes can spend as much time as they like in these centers. Some find the centers so appealing that they think they want to spend the rest of their spirit lives there. Others enjoy the activities for a while then turn to other activities.
Inhabitants of Eden at level 3 are assisted by higher beings in creating landscapes they are familiar with. While this reality seems a bit “fabricated” to us, Swejen is quick to point out that everything in their world looks and feels as solid and real to them, as physical things look and feel to us here on Earth (level 1).  — Maggy Fischbach

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Reincarnation (ITC Gem 8 and ITC Gem 10 and ITC Gem 11)
by Maggy Fischbach (earthside) and Swejen Salter (spiritside)

ITC GEM 8. Maggy got her first clear spirit voices through radio in the early 1980s. The main communicators were Konstantin Raudive (a Latvian spirit-voice pioneer who’d died in 1974) and Technician, one of The Seven finer beings, or “Rainbow People.” Reincarnation was one of the earliest subjects of those ITC messages. Technician:

The human soul returns back to Earth often enough to learn all human life experiences… Reincarnation is a constant evolution that moves forward, beginning with minerals, moving to plants and animals, then to human beings. There is no backwards evolution. The human soul does not return to Earth in the body of an animal.

When multidimensional scientist Swejen Salter died in 1987 and was recruited as director of Timestream spirit group, Maggy’s ITC communications took a big leap. Technician, again:

It (reincarnation) is not always a process of reparation in this life for a past life. If people around you are hard hit by fate, to not always assume that they have to make up for past transgressions. Never judge! You may be wrong and are burdening yourself by your judgment. There are people whose grief and sickness were not imposed on them because of past karma. They used their own free will to select a more difficult road to reach their goals faster. Some people are not making up for something, nor did they pick a life of suffering. Their grief was placed upon them as a burden by the thoughts and actions of others for these reasons. Always think first how you can help, not whether a person deserves his suffering or not. Should the occasion arise when you can help someone, we will let you know. If necessary, we will inform you about their previous lives. If we remain quiet, that information is of no importance to you. In this case follow your conscience.

Swejen later told Maggy that many people who get settled at level 3 want to stay in that paradise world forever. Decades may pass, or centuries, but eventually their soul beckons them to reincarnate. In many cases, a person wants to ascend to finer worlds but realizes that can only happen after lessons are learned in another lifetime on Earth.

Note: It was my impression from the dialogs between those two bright, caring women, that there are lots of mixed feelings at level 3 about reincarnation, just as there are on Earth at level 1. A few die-hard skeptics refuse to believe they once lived in a scrappy world like Earth… that their hazy memories of physical living among predators and parasites and competitors are just a bad dream. Many others know they’d lived on Earth but have no desire whatsoever to go back. A few people (usually guys) want to go back to that exciting place as soon as possible… well, as soon as they’ve rested up and recuperated in paradise. They’re attracted to the Earth dramas… at least for now.

ITC GEM 10. Now Swejen tells Maggy that people at level 3 decide on reincarnation by various means. Sometimes they just know it’s time to reincarnate… or they hear an inner voice… or they’re advised by a higher being. In any case, no one is forced to return to Earth. They can put it off for centuries of Earth time (which passes by rather quickly in spirit), but they can’t avoid their duties forever.

Maggy asks exactly how reincarnation works, and Swejen explains: << The procedure is similar to people’s arrival here, only this time it is a going back. The person is again placed in what looks like a tub. His body, which on this level usually takes on an average age of 25-30 years, begins to change and becomes increasingly younger and smaller. It returns to the state of a child and then to a baby and finally to a small cell. By the time the body has become a cell, it is no longer present here among us. The cell has meanwhile arrived in the female body of a human being. >>

Swejen adds that while her community likes the use of apparatuses like healing tubs, some communities perform the reincarnations “with the help of incantations and prayers.”

ITC GEM 11. As is often the case, Technician sums it all up succinctly:

Reincarnation exists. There are parallel worlds. Mankind evolves in a forever moving wheel of life. Some have arrived at a point of development that allows them a better understanding. Reincarnation means progression forward, not backward. Animals too are subject to the cycle of incarnation. A person does not reincarnate in an animal body. Important earth personalities are being born again as simple people if they used their previous life only to exploit others. There is a purpose for sickness and infirmity. Do not judge the fate of other people. If we feel it is important enough to let you know why some people are being tested this way, we will do so. It is only appropriate to advise and help some people, while others do not want to be helped. Those individuals have selected a life of struggle for their incarnation.

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Eden Residents Tell Their Stories (ITC Computer Reports)
(Various spirits delivered their reports to Maggy’s computer)

In the ITC Computer Reports article, find the big heading, Dying on Earth then Living in Paradise.
There you’ll find links to the rest of their stories.
Here’s how their stories begin:
  • Edith Koerner awakens among friendly Polynesians on her way to Timestream,
  • Olof Palme awakens among Vikings on his way to the Summerland,
  • Richard Francis Burton awakens in an Arabian paradise,
  • Jules Verne awakens in a sumptuous palace,
  • Arthur Moos is rescued from a dark void 50 years after his violent wartime death,
  • Maggy’s Uncle Jemp is accompanied into paradise by his late mother,
  • Maggy’s father is guided home to Eden by Bwele M’Banga,

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Conclusion: Our spirit friends at level 3 live together in peace and contentment as they migrate naturally into communities of like-minded people. However, they still have a few mental and emotional “rough edges” that allow them to resonate enough with us on Earth to intervene in our lives on projects like ITC… which brings us to the next article, When Spirits Intervene.

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1 Response to Revelations 5: After We Die, the Basics

  1. Julie Toney's avatar Julie Toney says:

    still love reading your blogs they give me great comfort hope your well x

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