ITC Gem 19: More Afterlife Descriptions

Editor’s note: This article combines reports from the 1991 issues of the Luxembourg ITC journal, CETL Infonews, which I published in English back in the day. These are wonderful descriptions of the paradise world where most of us will awaken after we die. Swejen Salter and Sir Richard Francis Burton are two of the members of the spirit group who were contacting the Luxembourg researchers on a regular basis.

– – – Begin CETL Report – – –

On the third plane some residents have been living for over a century. Some live in castles, fortresses or beautiful mansions, other in tents or teepees — whatever makes them comfortable.

New arrivals have the opportunity to get to know people of all ages of human history and to meet unfamiliar, intelligent beings of non-Earthly origin. How readily a newcomer can accept the many new and unusual things, is one factor determining how quickly he or she may move on to the subtler dimensions.

The researchers are assured that these are not descriptions adapted simply to make them understand; the conditions described are as real as our world.

During one of her river journeys with Richard, Swejen met a French scientist named Rimbaud who had been living with people of the early stone age to study their habits. Swejen and Richard visited their settlement and got to know them well.

Swejen Salter had a reputation as a tireless worker at the Timestream sending station. She once said:

“We too are overcome by a certain tiredness after long and hard work. It is not comparable to physical exhaustion but rather like the human need for change and relaxation. This relaxation is provided and takes but a short time as you measure it.”

She spoke of recreation centers frequented by hard-working people in the astral planes.

“The building we are in has the shape of a huge dome. Clouds are moving overhead although we are not in open space.”

She said the hall interior was patterned after nature, with beautiful gardens, indescribable colors, soul-penetrating music, and flowers that emit not only lovely fragrances but soft musical sounds as well. Some recreation centers have summer activities in beautiful, earth-like settings of lush green. Others have snowy landscapes with winter activities available.

Newcomers to the astral planes can spend as much time as they like in these centers. Some find the centers so appealing that they think they want to spend the rest of their spirit lives there. Others enjoy the activities for awhile then turn to other activities.

Inhabitants of the mid-astral planes are assisted by higher beings in creating landscapes they are familiar with. While this reality seems a bit “fabricated” to us, Swejen is quick to point out that everything in the astral planes can be seen and touched by people in astral bodies, just as physical things are fully experienced in our material world.

– – – End CETL Report – – –

Other ITC Gems:

1 How we affect the spirit worlds       2 Reliable look in-beyond      3 Phone chat with an invisible friend      4 Murdered child is found and healed      5 How thoughts create reality      Strangeness of material reality      7 More about Planet Varid      8 Reincarnation from ethereal eyes      9 Convincing a skeptical public      10 How some people reincarnate      11 The end of reincarnation      12 Friedrich Juergenson makes contact      13 How the Luxembourg miracle began      14 How humans,  spirits,  and angels see God      15 The nature of spirit      16 Life on the other side      17 Avoiding dark forces in spirit work     18 How angel pictures are delivered to Earth      19 More afterlife descriptions      20 Timestream and othe spirit groups      21 Time and space in the astral realm      22 How things work in ITC      23 Power of thought      24 Reliable facts about the afterlife      25 Ethereal beings 1      26 Ethereal beings 2      27 Technical  ITC      28 Transimages      29 More transimages      30 Technical ITC: Transvideo   31 Technical ITC conclusions      32 The second epoch      33 Parallel worlds and shadow worlds      34 Medicine and the human spirit       35 Atlantis (Science may be closing in)      36 Humans came from Eden      37 Secrets of life and afterlife      38 Perspective from Beyond

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11 Responses to ITC Gem 19: More Afterlife Descriptions

  1. Leslie Harris says:

    This reinforces the likelihood of the ‘mid-astral planes’ of being a mind construct – just dream up whatever you prefer and there it is.

    This prompts an obvious question: what is the purpose of the ‘mid-astral planes’?

    In any event, it must be extremely crowded. if it encompasses “people of all ages of human history”, “intelligent beings of non-Earthly origin”, and the annual death rate on this planet (2008 figures) of 52 million.

    • Hi Les…

      Mind construct?…
      In the bigger picture, I believe everything is a mind construct. Consciousness or awareness or spirit or “A-U-M” is the primal essence of the vast omniverse, and it manifests as all the different “realities,” including our material world and everything in it. So the Earth is just as much a mind-construct as the mid-astral planes.

      Purpose of the mid-astral planes?…
      Metaphors and analogies are kind of fun for me. The mid-astral planes are like 1) a decompression chamber or 2) a place of R&R (rest and recuperation).

      Decompression chamber idea
      We’re ultimately on a soul journey from the Earth to the finer realms of spirit. I believe that’s one thing we ALL have in common: We’re all 6 billion of us finer spiritual beings sharing an earthy experience at the moment. Living on Earth is like deep-sea diving. From a spiritual view, it’s dark, cold, and slow-moving here. We emerge from a lifetime on Earth with a lot of clutter in our spirit (animosities, fears, aggressiveness, carnal lust, and other attitudes of dense, dark vibration), and if we ascend to finer realms of spirit too quickly, those toxic thought-forms would be as painful to us as excess nitrogen in the blood of a deepsea diver who ascends too quickly to the surface. When we leave the physical body behind, we have to let the cloud of troubled thinking slowly dissipate before we can go “home” to finer realms of spirit… and the mid-astral planes provide lots of nice paradise places to do that.

      R&R idea
      Earth is a battlefield between what some people call the forces of light and the forces of darkness. I prefer the terms “noble side” and “savage side” of humanity—the finer spiritual part of us that’s loving and trusting, and the more animalistic part of us that helps us survive in a rough world. Earth seems to be one of the few places where life kills life for food, territory, and breeding rights. So it’s like 6 billion finer spirits have enlisted to fight the big battle here on Earth at this time. Some people wind up on the noble side, committing themselves to spreading light in their lifetimes through arts, sciences, literature, and good service. Other people get pulled into the savage side, being driven by their fears and animosities to prevail at the expense of others, whether as drug-dealers or shysters or crooks or stockbrokers or…. Some people wind up in the war room, strategizing from a safe distance. Other’s get grueling duty in the trenches.
      In any case, many, many people leave battlefield Earth spiritually exhausted, and the mid-astral planes are a place of R&R (rest and relaxation). Some souls enjoyed the drama of Earth and want to rest up and jump back into battle (reincarnate) as soon as possible. Other’s just want to get back home to lighter, ethereal realms, leaving the scars and nightmares of the battle behind. In any case, they need to spend some “time” processing their experiences in the mid-astral paradise worlds for awhile.

      I’m pretty sure the mid-astral planes don’t have the same geographic and resource constraints that we have on Earth. There’s plenty to go around, and plenty of opportunity to find solitude for those who want it. Not sure how the physics works there. Their structures seem as solid to them as ours in our world seem to us, but someone’s back yard can be a vast park or garden. No land deeds, zoning ordinances, that sort of thing. Pure paradise.

  2. Leslie Harris says:


    Thanks for an excellent reply. In this and in Blog 19, you touch on a number of matters that have long puzzled and worried me.

    The fact that this planet is based on predation and competition has occupied a bother spot in my mind for a very long time, sine I was not much more than a child, in fact. The reasonable argument is put that this system strengthens species but the underlying principle is death, pure and simple. Whilst this argument holds for non-sentient species, its application to human society results in the frightful extremes that only the human is capable of.

    At the simple level of competition, aggressive behaviour of, for instance, a pride of lions, is aimed at securing an adequate food supply for the pride but there they stop. They can eat only one wildebeest at a time. They do not kill one hundred.

    The human predator is different. The human predator kills a thousand, corners the market, marks up the prices, does very nicely, then looks for the next opportunity to exploit for his own gain.

    The non-sentient predates to ensure comfortable survival, the sentient predates beyond all bounds of reason and aggressively continues to acquire more and more.

    The end result is that the human predator lives in a mansion and employs a flock of security guards to protect him. While he can eat only a couple of meals a day, he stores ten lifetimes of food. While he can wear only one pair of shoes at a time, he owns a thousand pairs of shoes. While he can drive only one motor vehicle at a time, he owns twenty.

    Is this “intelligent”? Does this contribute to the comfortable survival of the species? No, it leads to the situation that you mention elsewhere – the necessity for continued expansion to support the system.

    The planet is already overpopulated. Today’s population is already using tomorrow’s resources – and I am talking fundamental resources such as arable land and water, not oil and gold.

    The whole planet is now a living Ponzi scheme but those who promote more consumption as the only answer to everything appear to be oblivious to this and to the fact that there is a finite end to it. Perhaps some do recognise this but, because they probably won’t be alive when to inevitable collapse comes, put it out of their mind and concentrate on accumulation of those thousand pairs of shoes, five hundred suits and a garage full of motor vehicles.

    If the ‘mid astral level’ is a decompression chamber, there is considerable decompression needed to cleanse the minds of the voracious, those who die believing that they never accumulated enough. More cleansing would be needed for all those who lived aggressively and took advantage of everything, this including the disadvantaging of other people. How many lifetimes would be needed to decompress Hitler (Juergenson notwithstanding), Stalin and similar human horrors?

    But, that said, I hope that there is an afterlife and that there are ‘mid astral levels’, not because it might be a ‘paradise’ but because I might be able apologise to people now deceased for not having done things that I should have done or having done things that I should not have done. If the ‘mid astral levels’ are places where forgiveness might be found, that is enough for me.

    You suggest that they might be places of R&R. If they are also stages on the path to something useful and constructive, the like of which is completely beyond my powers of imagination, then they could be great places indeed. The geography, as you say, might also be beyond our powers of conception.


  3. Hi Les,
    Your lengthy reply echoes a lifetime of my thoughts and concerns… Thanks,

  4. Stephen N. Prince says:

    Has it ever crossed your mind that it might be more than a pure coincidence that the afterworld, as described by Sir Richard Burton, i.e. a planet with a large river millions of miles in length, has a striking similarity to the “Riverworld” series of Science Fiction books by J.P. Farmer – his fictitious world has billions of deceased people from all ages and planets, the river is millions of miles long – and his main character is Sir Richard Burton !!! For those who may think that Farmer was inspired by Macy Afterlife, it must be stated that the first book of the “Riverworld ” series was written in 1979 – many years before these spiritual connections were made. Can anybody explain the similarities of these stories ?

    • Mark Macy says:

      Yes, it did occur to me. I wrote about it a few years ago. It’s good to revisit the subject now and again. Thanks, MM

      • Stephen N. Prince says:

        Thanks for your prompt answer – I will read your comment with great interest.
        Best regards from Hamburg, Germany

      • Stephen N. Prince says:

        I have now read your comment pertaining to this subject and must say that explanation of the mystery seems quite plausible as far as I am concerned. I read the Riverworld saga back in the 1980’s when they were first published in German – I’m an expatriate Englishman living in Hamburg, Germany since 1970.
        Many great artists, musicians, authors, painters and other celebrities, in the present and past, have often said that their work was inspired by “hidden sources”, in dreams but also from darker entities, to whom they apparently ” sold their soul” for fame and riches. That Philip J. Farmer could well have received inspiration from the same source that you have been in contact with, is not that far fetched as many would like to believe.
        My “disclosure” to the afterlife came when I was 16 years of age. My mother woke me one night and told me that my six year old little sister was talking in her sleep – in a language that my mother couldn’t understand! I grabbed paper and a pen and we both went to my sister’s bedroom, where we found her in a state of agitation, still asleep, still speaking in a language I also couln’t understand, but I thought may be Latin. I wrote everything down phonetically but could not make out what my sister was actually saying, although it was coherent and in complete sentences.
        My mother was at that time a language teacher for the Berlitz school in Hamburg, and a couple of months later she by chance had a Roman Catholic priest as a pupil. Somehow, they spoke of this incident and the next time he had a lesson, my mother took my notes with her, hoping he could make anything out of it.
        The priest confirmed that it was in fact perfect Latin and what my little sister had said was; “Help ! We must get out ! All must leave the house ! Fire, fire ! Everything is aflame ! We must all get out ! Fire ! Fire !”.
        Well, as you may well imagine, we were astounded at these revalations – especially coming from a six year old child with absolutely no knowledge of Latin !
        This took me on a long path to here and your fascinating website. I now know that children still have stronger links to the otherworld, which would explain my sister’s “dream” and her clear narrative, albeit in a language that hasn’t been spoken for over 1,500 years.
        Best regards

        • Mark Macy says:

          Stephen, that is most fascinating. Thanks so much for sharing it.
          I’m glad and honored to have you reading this site.

          • Stephen N. Prince says:

            Thank you, Mark, for your kind words. I will commence travelling through the fascinating otherworlds and afterlife you have so meticulously researched and reported. I actually have a couple more paranormal experiences both my now deceased father and I experienced which I would like to share with you and your supporters, if you wish and in due course if they fit in with your reports. Until then, bye for now and best regards from Hamburg.

    • Stephen N. Prince says:

      The author of the “Riverworld” science fiction saga was actually Philip Jose Farmer, not J.P. Farmer, as I erroneously stated above. Sorry !

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