Why is some of the information about “Marduk,” received through ITC, similar to SciFi “Riverworld” novels by Philip José Farmer? The similarities have stirred up a lot of debate and conspiracy theory over the years.
I have ITC information about the riverine world “Marduk” spread throughout the comments on this site (and on some of my other websites), along with explanations of why I believe the similarities exist… but until now I didn’t post an article on the subject here on this site, so that all the information can be easily found with a simple search on “jose farmer” or “riverworld.”
Over the years I’ve become more and more confident in and certain of my explanations, so here’s an article that sums it all up. I suppose this article is long overdue.
It’s all about the similarities between the spirit world called Marduk that our spirit friends in ITC described to us (which today I accept as true)… and the “Riverworld” described by Philip José Farmer in his novels, especially To Your Scattered Bodies Go… which I accept as good, compelling fiction based on true situations. At the end of the article I’ll explain how I separate truth from fiction, and why I consider some of Farmer’s writing to be “based on true situations.”
Here’s a link to all of the books by Philip José Farmer:
Here are several links to the information we received from Timestream about “Marduk,” which you’re welcome to review. It’s a lot more detailed than the Farmer books, and it’s just a sampling of the information we received from our spirit friends at Timestream. (Yes, there are a few similarities with the Farmer materials, and I’ll explain why in a moment.) So, here’s the free information (again, which I accept as fact, except where I indicate otherwise, for example, when I’m making speculations):
- Exploring with Burton (part of a series of 4 articles)
- Inside Timestream (also part of the series of 4 articles)
- The afterlife experience of Sir Richard Francis Burton
- Marduk and the Third Level
- Fantastic Arrivals to the Third Level
- Spirit Groups at the Third Level
- Contact! Journal (see page 12)
- Comments here on macyafterlife: examples here… and here….
Now, here are links to some of the self-described “conspiracies” that have spun out of the similarities:
- Paranormal Conspiracy
- Talking To the Dead
- DarkLore (search on “farmer” using Ctrl+F)
- Controversy on the old chatroom at worlditc (search on “farmer” using Ctrl+F)
Why the Similarities? Why the Conspiracy Claims?
The most likely explanation for the similarities (the one I believe to be true, based on contacts we received through ITC systems) is that the spirit world Marduk or Eden is a spiritual template of a physical planet that once circled our sun in a regular orbit between Mars and Jupiter. The superhuman inhabitants of Marduk died in the explosion (their technologies actually caused it), and the only survivors were colonists on Earth who became marooned here. We today can trace our lineage back to those superhumans some 4 billion years ago.
Many of the people who die on Earth awaken in the paradise spirit world Marduk (Eden). Since its physical counterpart-planet Marduk (before the explosion) was the birthplace of humanity in this solar system, we today still have spiritual roots in the spirit world Marduk.
Because of that intimate human connection and our ties to Eden, many people living on Earth get “glimpses” of the spirit world Marduk in their dreams and meditations, including Farmer I suspect. The Timestream spirit group say they live in the Marduk spirit world. The messages and images they have sent us I consider to be nearly 100 percent reliable, since the information came to us through our electronic devices mostly unfiltered by carnal human minds… unlike channeled material coming through dreams and meditations and trances, which is always filtered to some degree by the human minds.
It’s no surprise, then (if you believe that scenario), that our ITC messages about Marduk are similar to information received mentally by sensitive people like Farmer.
Even so, the information boggles many minds, and some skeptics with a rigid vision or limited understanding sometimes see these similarities as justification to reject various researchers and their research. Many of the skeptics are caught up in the material (neo-Newtonian) cosmology of modern science, in which…
- There was no physical planet called Marduk.
- There were no humans 4 billion years ago.
- There is no spirit world called Marduk or Eden.
- There are no spirits.
If you have a mind of a conventional scientist or a skeptic, and if you believe those four bullet points above, then the reality of Marduk (Eden) and its similarities to Farmer’s “Riverworld” might be difficult to reconcile, and might seem like a conspiracy.