(Note: This is the seventh of the unanswered questions about ITC, the afterlife, and our ancient heritage that invite answers, or best guesses, in this series of articles. It replaces an article I posted last week about astrology… prematurely, since I don’t yet fully understand the connection between astrology and ITC. When I learn more in the future, I hope to re-post that astrology article along with pertinent comments made recently by readers Daniel and Eric.)
Question 7: If humans on Earth came originally from Eden and the Edenites, then where did the Edenites come from?
Best guess: From finer realms.
From Finer Realms
Reader Kate commented on a recent article: If we came from Eden, then where did the Edenites come from… did they evolve or did they come from other parts of the universe? I find it interesting that our spirit friends start the story by telling us we came from Eden, which would logically suggest that is where it all began, which I find hard to believe. That would support Darwin’s theory of evolution but on a different planet.
Kate’s comment made me think… and think.
When our mind starts wandering back to those most ancient of times when the material universe was created, I think we have to step out of this temporal world altogether into the timeless spiritual realms. I believe the material universes are simply a dense spin-off from finer realms, and that spin-off might have started, say, 5 billion years ago or more, if we must use the fragile timelines of modern human culture.

The Omniverse: “…everything, a rock or planet or person or spirit, has a sort of multidimensional chain of subtle templates extending in-beyond all the way to the source. The subtlest, innermost template consists of that non-vibrating light, because it is a sort of divine spark, or piece of the source.”
Ancient religious and metaphysical writings say that life is created and sustained by the central source, also called God or Brahman. It’s the light from that eternal source, (also called divine consciousness or holy spirit or AUM) that manifests everything, everywhere.
I’ve come to believe that one main purpose of that central source is to spread life outward from itself, not outward in space or time, but out-beyond into dimensions that are differentiated by their vibration. Light directly from the source is non-vibrating and pure, and then its vibrations become slower and slower as the light moves out-beyond into the ethereal, astral, and finally physical realms. Through it all, its purpose (I believe) is to spread peace and order as far as possible, based on some sort of divine plan.
I also believe that by the time the divine light reaches the material universes and the vibrations become really slow, then it begins to destabilize, allowing for pockets of darkness and chaos to form… which is why life on Earth, out here in the material fringes of the omniverse, seems to be light and dark, good and evil, noble and savage.
The dark, chaotic pockets of life out here in the physical universe are illusions, though they seem real. The only real stuff is that light or consciousness from the source.
So this was my reply to Kate:
What makes the most sense to me is that bright minds in the finer realms had the task of spreading intelligent life out into the material universes, including our own. That was probably much longer ago than 4 billion years. Most of the “life-seeding” in the project probably went smoothly in most galaxies and solar systems, but a huge mistake and learning experience happened with Marduk/Eden. Transducing mighty ethereal energies and technologies into the material realm can apparently have devastating consequences. In this case, the material planet Eden was destroyed in a massive explosion, ravaging our solar system with asteroids, comets, and other shrapnel.
That’s the scenario that makes most sense to me, but it’s just a guess or theory, based on what I’ve learned about related things, like in the cataclysm article we’re talking about.
Kate then commented:
Life-seeding begs the question of where the life seeds come from and how are they made, where do souls come from originally! My mind is boggling a bit when I sit and think about it. There is great relevance and importance of what the ethereals have said in messages and I should imagine what they haven’t said, and what they have left out. All interesting stuff, thanks.
Then I thought about it some more, and replied:
Yes, the ethereals give puzzle pieces in their messages and it seems it’s up to us to put them together as best we can. My best guess is that the Edenites originally came from finer realms, and sort of donned superhuman (by our standards) physical bodies to navigate in this dimension, the way an astronaut dons a spacesuit, and they were working on a project to spread intelligent life and culture in the material universe, which seems to be about as far-removed from ‘the source’ as possible while sustaining any stability….
My theory or belief is that everything, a rock or planet or person or spirit, has a sort of multidimensional chain of subtle templates extending in-beyond all the way to the source. The subtlest, innermost body consists of that non-vibrating light, because it is a sort of divine spark, or piece of the source.
So, my best guess is that the Edenites didn’t come originally to Eden from another location in the material universe. They came from those timeless spiritual realms nearer to the Source.
Thanks Mark.
Quote:- ‘My theory or belief is that everything, a rock or planet or person or spirit, has a sort of multidimensional chain of subtle templates extending in-beyond all the way to the source. The subtlest, innermost body consists of that non-vibrating light, because it is a sort of divine spark, or piece of the source.’
I think your theory is right, it slots into place with other sources of information too. Very much like a photon wave of light from the sun that synthesises in a plant to produce energy and life.
Maybe the spirit realms need more light to function hence the three suns pictures and reports INIT got about them? When our Earth body dies we have been told over and over we go to the light. Going by the chart on your other article from Maggy Fischbach and her husband Jules Harsch, in 1987, it shows a climate comparison which may suggest a density, at level 3, that goes as the templates get closer to source and source being the brightest of all just as you describe with the multidimensional chain.
Mark, no one wants to die (usually) and there are certainly a lot of guesses and dreams about what happens after death and decomposition!. Resurrection is a delusion. My position, the common sense one, is that humans are not a special species and have one life just like all other life forms on earth.
Hi Grog,
I used to believe strongly the way you do.
After my years of ITC research I believe (still strongly) just the opposite… that we (and all physical things) have spirit bodies, and we all live various lives. (as I try to explain in ‘Answer 7…)
I suppose our beliefs are a matter of what we humans have experienced and learned over the years through our senses and sciences… and at the end of our lives, we’ll all probably be surprised. 🙂
Mark
Hi Mark, Yes our beliefs do come from what we have experienced and learned. One thing we have learned is that all living things die. Acceptance of that fact is what divides the non-believers from the delusional. And by the way, there doesn’t need to be a “purpose” for life other than its own propagation. Because we don’t know what happens after we die, we like to make up stories about returning to where we dream we came from. If you enjoy life be thankful for your parents and the generations that came before them, and the sun, which makes life on earth possible. There is only one life not two. GROG