The Human Story 10: The Afterlife of Anne de Guigné

In the early 90s, ITC researchers asked the Timestream spirit group whether or not, during reincarnation, the soul of the being enters as soon as the cell has developed in the woman’s body. Swejen Salter replied:

Yes, at the moment the body disappears here and the conception has taken place on Earth, the soul has entered the cell.

Some women may be deeply troubled by this when facing an abortion, reasoning that they are killing a human being with a soul, and there will be serious spiritual consequences. Again, Swejen Salter was asked if there are women at Timestream who had had abortions while on Earth and, if so, what spiritual consequences they might have faced. Her reply:

Yes, there are such women here, but abortion is not a topic of importance here anymore as it is on Earth. Here the emotions and feelings of guilt that arose on Earth about abortion no longer play a role.

One of the women who had an abortion on Earth met the human being here, a young person who would have developed out of the aborted fetus and grown into a young man on Earth. The young man did not know the young woman who stood in front of him. Neither did he understand the emotions she felt when she saw him face to face. He knew nothing about the problems she was confronted with when making this decision on Earth. The short stay in the physical world inside the female’s body left no memories in his mind. He was now enjoying his existence and had found his way. Only now did the woman realize that nobody was bearing a grudge against her. Nobody in her new life was judging her, and she managed to free herself from her feelings of guilt.

She gradually realized that her former decision was irrelevant to her spirit life, but not to her psyche. Due to the opinion of people and the social structure of the time, she had burdened herself for many years with feelings of guilt. Today she is at the same stage of spiritual development as those around her who did not have this experience.

The women at Timestream who once said yes to an abortion did not make this decision out of lower motives. That is, they are free from the karmic task of accounting for or repeating the experience. There is a great difference between the decision motivated by lower, selfish reasons and the one made out of desperation or in an emergency.

So, as far as the spirit world is concerned, if an abortion is done for a valid reason, as is usually the case (a woman is impregnated when raped, or a teenage girl made a mistake, or a poor woman became pregnant who can’t afford another child, or birth control methods didn’t work, or a fetus is diseased…) then there are no spiritual repercussions. In these cases, the greatest harm to the woman is not karmic consequence, but the guilt thrust upon her by moral judgment.

In the larger picture, it’s the rights not of fetuses but of living children that really deserve our attention.

German ITC researcher Friedrich Malkhoff and his son Markus are familiar with an appropriate poem, called “Children,” which they shared with other researchers in 1993:

Who can comprehend what is being done to children all over the world?
Children die because wars and violence rule.
Children starve because they live in need and poverty.
Children flee because they and their families are persecuted.
Children sleep on the street because they have no roof over their heads.
Children become beggars and steal because they have nothing to eat.
Children are beaten because they are small and defenseless.
Children must suffer much because they are unwanted.
Who can understand it all?

As the poem suggests, the mistreatment of children does have spiritual and karmic consequences. So why do so many people spend more energy trying to protect unborn fetuses than living children… who suffer so much?

Enter Anne de Guigné

Among the many ITC messages received by Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach of Luxembourg in 1993 through their computer and FAX machines, were several short messages by a newcomer to their group of spirit colleagues at Timestream—a young woman identifying herself as Anne Guigné (pronounced “GeenYAY”).

Anne de Guigné was a remarkable French girl who died in 1922 at age 11. Today many Catholics are trying to make her a saint because of miracles that happened during her short life.

Read more about Anne de Guigné

The miracles didn’t end when she died, however, as she recently became an important player in ITC, as head of “the Group to Protect Newborn Life.”

Two ITC pictures of Anne were received on November 10, 1993, by researchers in Luxembourg and Germany. One picture of Anne in her spirit body came through the TV of Adolf Homes of Rivenich, and we were told that it was produced in the spirit world by a process similar to photography on Earth, in which the real image of the subject is conveyed in reliable fashion. The other picture had been “painted” collaboratively by two artistic women recruited into Timestream to help with ITC images. The image created by the two women was then scanned into a bit map compatible with the earthside computer in Luxembourg. Spirit images created in this way often bear a close resemblance to earthside pictures of the subject, as you can see in the pictures below.

The two spirit artists, interestingly, were Honorine de Viane (wife of writer Jules Verne) and Susannah Lehnhof (wife of painter Edouard Manet, better known in lifetime as Suzanne Leenhoff Manet).

Lifetime pictures of Anne de Guigne

This spirit-world painting, received as a computer image, shows Anne de Guigné, as a young lady in her 20s, closely resembling her girlish look during lifetime, complete with her characteristic black hair band. ITC portraits created artistically in this fashion often bear a close resemblance to lifetime pictures that have found an intimate place in people’s minds. The computer image was attached to a short message: “Anne Guigné. Born at Annecy 1911 April 25. Transition made 1922 January 14. Guardian angel of Remy.”

Most ITC images through TV, such as this picture of Anne de Guigné, have been produced on the other side by a technique similar to photography, so they bear a close resemblance to the actual appearance of the spirit person… the way they are perceived by other spirits around her at the moment.

Both pictures of Anne were accompanied by letters. The identical one-page letters, written by Anne, appeared the same day in computers of Homes and the Harsch-Fischbach couple. The message to Homes in Germany arrived in his Commodore 64 computer. The identical letters stated:

As a little girl in France I got very ill. I was an important source of information (for higher beings monitoring her life on Earth). Through spiritual insight and prayer I learned from the omnipotence that I was better able to understand the things I needed to know here on the third level and could do more for mankind from here than on Earth.

I desired the change into a multi-dimensional world and was allowed a fast passing over to a world some memory of which was still alive in me. It is the same beautiful world you have heard about from others like me.

There are 35,000 to 40,000 children dying daily on Earth. My task became clear to me. Together with other scientists, physicians and theologians I am in charge of a group for the protection of all newborn life. We are particularly concerned about those who have to die as children.

As you know, the concept of guilt does not exist here. However, we do not understand your overall attitude towards these entities who voluntarily walk the path of incarnation and are part of the all-that-is.

In particular it is your consciousness that bears the responsibility for your children, not only by evolutionary law but also by the natural laws of the all-that-is.

Be aware therefore that the wars and violent events caused by you, and from which particularly your innocent children suffer, are not sparing you part of the so-called purgatory. Just the opposite. Every debt you shoulder by sacrificing your own flesh and blood to wars is adding to the misery, the suffering that awaits you.

The more you create your own hell on Earth by your criminal deeds and negligence, the less it will be diminished for you here later. Therefore consider carefully what you do and be aware that everything will be observed and weighed. 

We know that those among you who are actively pursuing ITC in a positive manner, are not evil people. We want to encourage you to oppose crimes against the defenseless. You can do this by leading an honest life in accordance with spiritual cooperation.

Anne Guigné is greeting you, especially your children.

– – – –

I was becoming close friends with the Luxembourg researchers at this time—the early 90s— and I was starting to conduct my own ITC experiments here in Colorado with encouraging results… capturing lots of spirit voices on cassette tapes in the early morning hours. For a period of time I would sometimes hear a friendly female voice with a French accent.

One morning I asked if I was hearing the voice of Anne Guigné, who was becoming active at Timestream. Several spirit voices emerged through the radio sounds in rapid succession, the last of them apparently Anne de Guigné:

Definit! Comment de suer-la?

It’s apparently slang, “Of course!” (‘definit!’ is probably short for ‘definitement’) “Don’t worry about it!… or, How can you sweat it?”

Listen to those spirit voices of Anne de Guigné and others.

These are the voiced messages I hear in the contact:

Me: I notice a very pleasant female voice in some the taping sessions. It seemed to have an accent. A French accent. Is it Anne de Guigne? Is she with us?

Spirit voices:

  • You wanna’ date her?
  • You’ll know when your self knows….
  • Stand by Sarah Estep, Mark….
  • Definit! Comment de suer-la?!


The voices in that contact are typical of many EVP results–lasting no more than a couple of seconds each, unusual word usage, and not of high spiritual content. The reason, I believe, is that, first of all, only so much can be said in two seconds. Second, most EVPs don’t involve a dedicated spirit group, while an ITC project involves teams on both sides. Members of the Timestream spirit group, for example, come from various realms and assemble at Station Co-Time (or Timestream) on the “third level” of spirit, which is much like the earth but without the hormonal dramas. They work together at the station to assemble meaningful messages and images, which a delegation then takes through “the tunnel” to the ITC location on earth to make the actual contact. By the time the spirit delegation arrives at the experimental site on Earth, there may already be a crowd of spirits there… but they can move through the crowd to the equipment to deliver their contact. Other random voices and messages may also “leak in” from the crowd during the delivery.

Most EVP, without participation of a devoted spirit group, usually involves whatever spirits happen to be near the earthside experimenter, and those are often  spirits who are stuck in a denser realm… what might perhaps be called the “second” level, or maybe a “shadow world” of Earth?… They’re often attuned to the unconscious desires of the experimenters.

In any case, that contact of mine seems to have some random voices as well as the Timestream voice delivered by Miss Guigné. That’s my own (rather long-winded) explanation of how those voices probably came through during my contact.

Other posts in the “Human Story” series:
Introduction: Pursuing Life’s Purpose Amid the Drama
1 – From the Source of All-That-Is
2 – Physical Life and Spiritual Life
3 – An Ancient Timeline
4 – The Edenites and Their Descendants
5 – The Seven Ethereals
6 – The Afterlife Eden
7 – The Afterlife of Jules Verne
8 – The Afterlife of Arthur Moos
9 – The Afterlife of Sir Richard F Burton
11 – Afterlife Wrap-Up
12 – Atlantis and the First Epoch
13 – Thoth the Atlantean
14 – Modern Civilization Sprouted from Ancient Pyramids
15 – Hands that Caress and Strangle the World
16 – End of Story, End of Times

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11 Responses to The Human Story 10: The Afterlife of Anne de Guigné

  1. C. Ezekwe says:

    Mark, I have been following, with great enthusiasm, your numerous posts on this website and at ‘’. I am currently writing an ebook which features the activities of ITC and the Timestream, including some Timestream messages found on your websites. This is my own way of bringing the activities of ITC to the knowledge of readers of my intended ebook any other books that might follow. I’m therefore requesting your permission to include the texts.

    In Love and Light, thank you,

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi CE,
      I think it would safe and fair for me to give my blessing to your project, with a couple of requests or suggestions.
      It would be good if you could estimate what proportion of your book consists of the ITC/Timestream materials gleaned from our research, and then give or donate or dedicate or direct a similar proportion of your net earnings to help remove suffering from the planet, in whatever way you feel in your heart it is best to do that.
      Also, I’d appreciate knowing how to acquire a copy of your book(s) once it is (they are) published and available. 🙂
      I hope your book does much good…

      (Bear in mind that representing these things comes with some responsibilities and some silent observation by interested parties….)

  2. Cyndi says:

    The first part of December 2002 I had a ‘dream’ of a young lady I didn’t recognize ‘walking’ towards me and only saying, “End times are very near.” When I awoke, I couldn’t get the date of March 3rd out of my head.

    Mid December I am looking thru a thin catalog and see many columns of books for sale and to order. THERE WAS A PICTURE OF THE VERY GIRL THAT WAS IN MY DREAM. The book is ‘By a Benedictine Nun of Stanbrook’ and is called “ANNE; The Life of Venerable Anne de Guigne` 1911-1922”. I ordered the book and read about her life. BTW, 3/3 was the date that Pope John Paul II approved a decree recognizing her Heroic Virtue, as if that date sticking in my head was confirmation that it truly was Anne. ?

    Here it is April of 2014, and I still don’t know what that all means! 1911, 1922, 1933 (body exhumed and found incorrupt), 3/3. Interesting play on numbers? 😉

    Just thought I’d pass this by you since I ‘stumbled’ upon your web site and read about Anne here, too! Any thoughts? Cyndi

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi Cyndi,
      I’m delighted you stumbled onto this site.
      You apparently have some spiritual sensitivity and some kind of resonance with Anne… for her to contact you directly like that.
      I know she’s still busy ‘over there’ trying to help our world.
      If you have any additional details to add about your experiences related to that encounter, I’d love to hear them.
      You could share them here or send them in an email, which I could write a post about…
      my email address:

      As far as the “End Time is near’ comment, time is a nebulous matter for our spirit friends. The timeframe she sees might be a year from now or a decade or a century.
      Given the climate changes underway, though, I’d suspect sooner rather than later.

      Thanks much for your comments,

  3. Cyndi says:

    Thanks, Mark! Sending you an e-mail….

  4. Nicola says:

    I have to admit that the more I read of the descriptions of the afterlife, the more depressed I feel. It seems that not only do we transition with our personalities intact, but we also still possess our earthly talents (note the two artists used to draw Anne’s portrait). What of the talentless, or normal individual? What about the people whose disposition is less than sunny? Or the socially inept who fear or avoid social contact? Are there still rock concerts where the celebrated on earth get to gorge on an eternity of adoration while the average man serves an eternal sentence of mediocrity (albeit in a nice place)?

    Don’t get me wrong , I have known I will be going home when I am finished here since I was a child. But had always assumed we would all be equal, equally capable of anything we please, because our inhibitors are our earthly brains and bodies. It seems not though, if timestream have to bring in artists. 😑

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi Nicola,

      I think that I detect a little tongue-in-cheek humor… and that you’re not really very depressed about the descriptions of the afterlife. I could be wrong, but that’s the sense I get.

      Anyway, it’s my impression from these contacts that most people get settled into an afterlife scenario on the “third level” that matches their soul needs and soul purpose… not the ego compulsions that had guided many of them in life.

      We were told that Elvis Presley, for example, is living in a forest area among lumberjacks. Not in the spotlight as he had been on Earth.

      The two artist women mentioned in the above article were wives of famous painters, and it’s my impression that their great skills were not recognized on Earth while in the shadows of their husbands… so I think that might be why they now enjoy painting on the other side.

      Some people reconnect with loved ones, some people reconnect with pets, some people enjoy solitude in a paradise world. Some people give lectures or musical recitals in front of large crowds, if that’s what motivates them at a deeper level. Some people enjoy feasts without getting fat and some people enjoy sex without getting pregnant.

      These earthly desires gradually fade away as the person gets settled into the third level, especially if he or she decides to ascend vibrationally to finer levels… but many of the personality patterns do indeed seem to carry over and stay with us for a while after we die.

      Bottom line, there appear to be many, many possibilities awaiting us at the third level, and no one there that I’ve heard about from ITC contacts is bored or depressed. There’s a contentment and bliss that just about everyone finds… and I expect you and I will not be an exception to that. 🙂


      • Nicola says:

        Thanks for the reply Mark. ☺
        May I ask your opinions on the computer apps designed for EVP communication? I have just got one .. I suppose my aim is to try to link in directly to the third level. I’m a little concerned about connecting with earthbound spirits by mistake. Do you have any advice, or know if it’s even possible with an app? Sorry if this is an inappropriate place to ask..

        • Mark Macy says:

          Hi Nicola,
          The app will be of little help in reaching the finer levels of spirit.
          A bridge to the third level depends almost entirely on resonance, or the contact field… and also a certain sensitivity in which the researcher can establish a psychic or mediumistic rapport with people (spirits) on the third level.
          As Konstantin Raudive told us, “It can only work when the vibrations of those present are in complete harmony and when their aims and intentions are pure.”
          Any sort of technical equipment can help clean up whatever contacts you can receive, but most of those random contacts come from what I usually call “the shadow world” of Earth. That is, spirits who hang around our world and haven’t yet moved on to the third level. Those contacts rarely contain messages of any depth.
          With an ITC bridge to the third level, a team of spirits commit themselves to a bridge and then journey through that shadow world, carrying their information with them as they come close to our world in vibration, and then they deliver that information efficiently through our electromagnetic energies and technical equipment. They can only do that when the researcher’s life energies are in harmony, or resonant, with them.
          From our perspective, it becomes a close friendship between the researcher and the spirit group. The relationship is based on trust and mutual respect. That sort of bond is difficult to achieve and sustain with spirits in the shadow world.

          That said, then yes, EVP experiments can be useful in fostering the necessary rapport with those spirits on the third level… but it will take some time and commitment from both sides before that contact field can become strong and clear enough to make more advanced ITC contacts start happening.
          But once they do… wow!

          You’ll notice that rapport developing in your dreams and meditations and intuition. You’ll notice a sense of inpiration and bliss as you get impressions of the third-level spirits who start working closely with you and the messages they convey to you mentally.

          That’s how I’ve come to understand the situation. I hope it makes sense,


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