ITC*—Why now… at this point in history? (First in a series.)
*ITC, or instrumental transcommunication, involves getting in touch with finer worlds through our modern technologies. An ITC bridge is made possible by a contact field or technical communication portal between Earth and subtler (spirit) worlds.
This is a roundup of key ITC information that’s gotten scattered around this website since it was launched in 2009. It’ll all come together in several articles in the coming weeks:
What an ITC bridge really is.
A brief history of ITC.
How to establish and sustain a bridge “between Heaven and Earth.”
Why the other end of an ITC bridge is optimally at level 3 (see the cosmos diagram below).
Examples of exceptional ITC contacts as experienced by members of INIT (the International Network for Instrumental Transcommunication) in the late 1990s.
The pros and cons of reaching out to the other side through ITC (instrumental transcommunication) or MTC (mediumistic transcommunication), or through more refined spiritual practices like meditation and prayer.
When spectacular ITC contacts were being received late last century, did finer realms intend to open sustained dialog with humanity? Was it just a wake-up call? Were they just “testing the waters?”
About the Title
Here’s what the title suggests (Chatting with Finer Worlds Through Technology):
Chatting suggests friendly dialog.
Finer worlds suggests spirit realms closer to the source, level 3 in particular. (Though it could also include refined extraterrestrial civilizations in our material universe here at level 1.)
Technology suggests communication through computers, phones, radios, TVs, and other electronic devices… a process generally known as “ITC.”
Some Samples
Here’s a preview of some ITC contacts that were especially mind-boggling or evidential or controversial. (There’ll be a lot more of these contacts in later articles in the series.)
The Seven
By the time we founded INIT in 1995, my colleague Maggy Fischbach of Luxembourg and her husband Jules Harsch had been in contact with the Timestream Spirit Group for about a decade. The spirits were talking through Maggy’s radios, calling her on the phone, and delivering images through her TV and computer. It was a magical time, especially when a high-pitched, precise voice introduced itself through the radio as a superior “gatekeeper” for the communication bridge being developed between the couple and their spirit friends.
It soon became clear that the bridge would not be possible without the support and protection of The Seven finer beings who displayed unimaginable knowledge and power, as well as unbounded love and patience. The spirits at Timestream, most of them having lived lifetimes on Earth, sometimes called them “People of the Rainbow” because of the vivid colors and light they emanated when visiting Timestream at level 3.
The Seven themselves apparently have a “home frequency” around levels 4 and 5, that spiritual frontier where subtle form melts away into formless, brilliant consciousness (as the pictures above suggest).
Jules Verne Palace
One particular picture of a spirit-world palace was probably the most controversial of the ITC contacts Maggy Fischbach received, as we’ll see in a moment. But first some backstory….
The late French sci-fi author Jules Verne sent Maggy three contacts in the spring of 1994, when she attended an afterlife conference in Paris to share her research.
- The first was a long letter delivered by FAX (excerpt below), which she could share at the conference.
- The second was a portrait of Jules Verne standing in front of a pegasus (winged horse), with an inscription, “What I see here far exceeds any fiction that I could produce!”
The third was a picture of an elaborate spirit-world palace where Jules Verne says he awakened after he died in 1905. (This is the controversial picture that we’ll examine in a moment, but first…)
Jules Verne’s letter and pegasus picture. Before the Paris conference Maggy had received a letter from Jules Verne, through her FAX machine, in which he described waking up in paradise after suffering a most painful death. Here’s an excerpt:
… I suddenly realized with amazement that I no longer had pain—anywhere—and that my blindness had completely disappeared, which allowed me to observe, among other things, that I was in a sumptuous palace bringing to mind the splendid residences of the rajahs, with walls constructed not in sandstone but in resplendent white marble. The opulence of many mirrors reflected the blaze of the solid silver furniture. The mural paintings showed courtiers and girls who were dancing, and I noticed a pleasant freshness emanating from a number of little fountains surrounding luxuriant green plants. My hearing, now completely restored, finally permitted me once more to savor the melodious warble of the countless birds.
“What I see here far exceeds any fiction that I could produce!”
I then heard music so soft and sweet that I cried with joy. Slender, fine and exquisite creatures, reminding me of my Honorine when she still possessed all the beauty and freshness of her youth, and who, molded in their orange and blue silk garments which contrasted with their tanned skin, invited me to sit upon the soft pillows and inquired as to my desires and wishes.
They spoke to me in a language that up until then I had never heard but, strangely, I understood immediately—and I was even able to answer them in the same idiom. (It was only later that I was informed that it was the “Language of the River” that each one acquires as soon as one arrives here.)
For a long time I thought I was dreaming, and it was only after weeks and months—which somehow seemed to me to pass like the flight of swallows—that I finally understood that I was deceased….
Jules Verne’s palace picture. After getting that magnificent letter and pegasus picture before the conference, Maggy probably wasn’t too surprised when she got home and found another picture from Jules Verne in her computer. The surprise came years later, when we learned that this picture of a spirit world palace was almost identical to a 1928 photograph of a temple in India.
I added the red arrows to point to distortions in the spirit picture.
The two pictures are so similar (nearly identical!) that it’s natural to assume it’s a hoax. I considered that possibility when the 1928 photo was found.
But since then, weighing all the evidence over the years, I’m confident that it’s a genuine spirit picture… not a hoax. Here’s my reasoning:
- I observed Maggy conducting herself always with honesty and sincerity moreso than most people I’ve ever encountered. That sort of deep, inherent honesty apparently resonates well with our win-win, live-and-let-live friends at level 3. And resonance with finer spirit, more than anything else, is what can sustain an ITC bridge like INIT’s. In fact, it’s the mark of any gifted medium who channels finer truths into our world.
- In one of her many telephone chats with our spirit friends, they tried to explain to Maggy the challenges they faced while sending pictures to Earth. In a nutshell: The “physics” of their world is different from ours. Anyone who’s ever stubbed a toe knows that material things in our world are hard and unforgiving. In their world, human bodies and other structures (trees, houses…) are rarified copies of the dense structures on Earth. They’re like living energy holograms that to us might seem unstable… fluctuating… subject to change. Even so, the capricious things in their spirit world seem as solid and real to our spirit friends as our rigid reality on Earth seems to us.
- Trying to convey their reality to us in ways that seem normal to us (pictures of dense structures, voice messages and text in earthly languages, etc) is fraught with technical difficulties. Even though they have eyes, ears, and mouths like ours, information is passed among them telepathically for the most part… in what they’ve sometimes called “the Language of the River.”
- Most important, everything in their world is formed by consciousness. When they send information to us, it’s first “stabilized” by the consciousness of finer beings like The Seven. Then, as the information comes into our world, it’s affected by our consciousness. The pictures and messages we receive are shaped to some degree by humanity’s expectations, perceptions, memories, and so on. A spirit picture of Abe Lincoln or Olof Palme, for example, once received on Earth, might look as they appear on popular currency. A picture of an elaborate temple at level 3 might come through resembling the famous Badri temple in Calcutta.
- It’s my understanding that everything in our material universe—whether a person, a planet, a galaxy, a molecule, or an elaborate temple—has subtle (“spiritual”) copies of itself in subtle realms. For every fine material thing in our world (anything that thrives in win-win, live-and-let-live conditions), there’s presumably a subtle facsimile in the spirit world at level 3.
Hopefully we’ll get a more complete understanding of these spirit-world realities and ITC challenges in later articles in this series, but for now a closer look at one of those distortions in the palace picture might give us a clue.
The first thing you might notice is that the “distortion” seems to be multiple exposures—as if someone carelessly passed a handheld scanner across this part of the picture—and if you look closely there’s a man dressed in a suit included in the exposures. Was the spirit group trying to show someone (maybe Jules Verne himself) sitting in a tree admiring the temple? (A playful thought.) Your guess is as good as mine. I don’t think our spirit friends at Timestream ever explained those distortions in that particular picture. But I have no doubt that they sent the picture to us as an ITC contact, despite the “technical difficulties” they evidently experienced in the process.
Phone Chats with the Late Konstantin Raudive
In the 1990s I received a series of phone calls from the late Konstantin Raudive, a Latvian psychologist and avid researcher of EVP (electronic voice phenomenon). During his lifetime he’d recorded more than 70,000 short, often clear spirit voices on audiotape. After his death in 1974, he said it was his calling to continue the work from the other side—to make contact with researchers still living on Earth.
Over the years, since his death, Konstantin has made contact with (I suspect) hundreds of EVP researchers around the world, and in the 1990s he joined the Timestream spirits who were making more miraculous contacts with members of our INIT group (chats through phones and radios, pictures through TVs and computers, that sort of thing).
When he first called me on the phone in 1994, I was floored… feeling like I’d suddenly been transported to paradise. The next day I installed recording devices on all three of our landline telephones, so if he called again I’d be able to capture it for posterity. Well, he called several more times in the coming years, sometimes just leaving a message on our answering machine, but sometimes we were able to chat.
In one particular phone chat (below) he gave me technical instructions for the communication lab I’d set up in our basement, which was built around three broadband radios from Radio Shack. Konstantin referred calmly to technical things about my radios that only I and a few trusted colleagues knew about. He even mentioned technical stuff that even we didn’t know about.
Hm, it was actually two consecutive phone calls that morning. In the first call Konstantin said something like, “You need to pur-CHAZE…LF converter.” The message was short and muddled, and I had no idea what he was talking about… probably because I was a bit depressed and lethargic that morning. Well, that call perked me right up, so when the phone rang again a few minutes later I was pumped and ready:
In all of my conversations with him, Konstantin came across as a fascinating fellow—bright, kind, respectful, and very precise with his messages.
The main thing I learned from my experiences with Konstantin was that all spirits aren’t like him. Most of the spirits at level 3 are refined and supportive like that, but there are a lot of troubled spirits stuck in Earth’s shadow who are just the opposite—dull, cruel, impolite, and confused. Konstantin didn’t explain that to me. He didn’t have to. It’s just a fact that I’ve learned from experience, and from the experiences of countless other afterlife researchers.
In a nutshell, it’s important to focus on finer spirit. Spiritual refinement is important in any afterlife research. Indeed, it’s important for anyone living on Earth.
That gets us to the real meaning of ITC. A genuine ITC bridge involves people on Earth who can resonate mentally and emotionally with each other and with our finer spirit friends at level 3. It’s a win-win relationship of trust, friendship, and mutual respect.
That’s what this series is about… so stay tuned. 🙂
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Note: I’ve devoted the last half of my life largely to ITC and what it’s taught me about the cosmos. Through the 1990s I did a lot of…
experimenting (mostly with spirit photography and with phones, radios, and recording devices),
- collaborating (INIT),
writing (books, websites, journals…), and
- public speaking (seminars and interviews).
I’ve learned a lot, thanks mostly to many enlightened spirit friends who were delivering amazing information to my colleagues and me through our phones, radios, TVs, and computers in the 1990s. I think I was actually recruited (by our spirit friends) into the work because they knew I’d be committed to the project, with whatever talents and energies I had, till the day I die. And after that, who knows?… (And please don’t say, “The shadow knows.” 🙂 )
Anyway, in my later years I’ve mostly been staying home to write it all down on this website. Now (2023) I’m organizing it better while fostering a closer connection to the source by meditating a lot and trying to polish up my rough edges. The work goes on… — mhm
Macy Afterlife: The Beacon 
Looking forward to this new series, Mark. Thank you.
Hi Karyn, I look forward to it too, sort of.
These articles usually start out feeling like a chore that has to be done.
Then, slowly, as they start coming together, a slight sense of adventure starts to develop and grow, and it sort of gives me the fuel to continue.
Then there’s all the polishing and reorganizing again and again and again.
It always feels imporant though.
I suspect you know that feeling too. 🙂
Mark
Mark Macy,
Interesting that ITC relates to electricity and technology but also
Quantum physics was also being worked on at the same time as
electricity. Magnetic fields and Torsion are also related to
electricity. All effecting human consciousness.
Hi Mark B,
That might have to be another article in this series.
Electricity has become the cornerstone of civilization and industy.
What really is it, though, beyond the movement or excitation of subatomic particles and waves?
How does it interplay with consciousness?
I think quantum physicists and string theorists are starting to talk about things like that.
An article like that feels kind of daunting to me at the moment.
Not sure I’ll understand enough in this lifetime to add much to the discussion,
but you’ve planted a seed. Thanks for that,
I plan to reread your comment from time to time to let it assimilate.
Mark M
Mark Macy,
Your Welcome.
Hey Mark hope you’re doing well. I’m looking forward to this series. It will be interesting to see any possible progression of thinking from either yourself or others with insight or ideas.
In your mention of a ‘win-win’ situation, I can imagine what wins might look like for researchers on this Earthly side. Sometimes just staying grounded after a particularly challenging day or stressful commute can work wonders for sustaining an ITC bridge. But I am really interested in hearing your take about what wins might look like for our spirit collaborators.
That’s a good angle, Dan.
I think the issue hinges on the word “stressful.”
I’ve come to believe that their world (at level 3) doesn’t have much stress, because most of the predatory, parasitic, and competitive compulsions from Earth have been filtered out by the time people (or spirits) get there.
But if we’re talking about Earth’s shadow, that’s a whole other ballgame.
It’s all about stress there.
Driven by stress, stirring up stress….
The key is establishing a bridge beyond the shadow, to level 3.
I’ll figure out how to work the stress factor into the series.
I think in might be key to all this.
Mark
Dan, rereading these comments, I don’t think I answered your basic question:
“…what wins might look like for our spirit collaborators?”
I think in the case of ITC, there’s been a big project underway on the other side to enlighten humanity about the realities in finer realms of the cosmos, the kind of basic truths that hold everything together in love, knowledge, service, and vitality.
So a “win” for them in this win-win ITC relationship between them and us would be to succeed in making meaningful contacts with us through methods that most humans think of as normal—dialogs and letters in Earth languages, pictures of earth-like structures, videos, and so on.
That’s a big challenge for them, since they (and most of the cosmos) share information silently, mind-to-mind among resonant beings.
So the “win” for them would probably be to open up dialogs and information exchange in ways that seem normal to us. I think that’s probably the case, but I hope to explore and research it in this series of articles.
Mark
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Hi Mark,
Thank you for sharing this ongoing knowledge, will look forward to reading more.
Take care,
Lance
Good hearing from you Lance.
We’ll see how it comes together…
Mark
Hi Mark,
A few comments on the photos of the Badri Temple in Calcutta. As much as I would like to believe that the left photo is a photo from the spirit world, I believe that the two photos are identical. So the ‘spirit’ picture I think is just a copy of the ‘earth’ picture.
1. They are both taken from exactly the same position, so the same angle, the same height and the same distance.
2. The trees in the picture are exactly the same.
3. The visible shadows are identical. The weather also seems to be the same…
4. On the left of the photo next to the 4 thick pillars is a person with his right arm on his chest.
5. The ‘person’ visible in the tree is not a person in my opinion, but because of the poor quality of the photo it looks like a person with some imagination. You can also see this person with the same fantasy in the original photo from 1928.
6. It looks like part of the photo has been cut off where you can see the background. It is unlikely that the background too
would be identical.
There are even more unlikely similarities that you wouldn’t expect in the spirit world imho.
I think the ‘distortions’ were created with Photoshop. (Photoshop was released about 1990).
In my opinion it is 100% fake.
Another question: Why are the images from the spirit world of such poor quality. Almost always the same pictures of the same people. Is there no development in the spirit world? Hundreds of thousands of years in an ideal environment should yield superior technology…
Vriendelijke groeten
Gerrit
Thanks Gerrit!
It’s a natural reaction to the similarities in the photos, and I’m glad someone brought it up… like revealing the elephant in the room 🙂 .
And I agree, using Occam’s razor, based on our familiarity with the way things work on Earth, a Photoshop fake is the simplest, least “contrived” explanation for those two pictures being nearly identical.
That was my first reaction too, on seeing the 1928 Badri photo.
It stunned me, made me question the honesty of the Luxembourg couple and even the legitimacy of ITC. And you can imagine the moral dilemma I faced, having been totally immersed in the work for years and knowing for certain that ITC was totally valid under the right conditions. Why would someone (whom I knew to be honest) fake that???
Well, my mental shock was very short-lived, lasting only a few moments, then over the next few days and weeks it gradually faded away as I dug into my archives to study more closely the ITC contacts that explained why “spirit pictures” delivered to us on Earth from level 3 often resemble familiar earthside pictures. What conditions and challenges our spirit friends face when trying to send meaningful information to us.
I actually explained that in the article as best I could. Still….
If a person simply doesn’t believe in spirits and afterlife, then all of those explanations are moot. In that case I would be viewed as gullible… or going to crazy extemes to justify the impossible… or, worst case, complicit in a fraud.
So, based on the explanations I laid out in the article, I’ve come to the firm belief that the Badri picture on the left was indeed an ITC contact in which our spirit friends had some troubling “technical difficulties” in the delivery.
If people disagree, and if they prefer to think of me in the gullible/crazy/complicit mode, then that’s up to them. I can certainly understand why they would think that. ITC is very hard to explain and justify in worldly terms. I just do the best I can.
Anyway, thanks again for the comment. Very important!
Mark
Ah, and the same answer applies to your additional question: “Why are images from the spirit world of such poor quality?”
It’s challenging for them to deliver information to us.
They were working hard to improve the contacts, and many of the pictures acutally came through quite nicely, especially some of the pixellated images planted in the Harsch-Fischbach computer. I plan to share lots of those later in this series, hopefully with further explanations about the difficulties involved in getting those images to us from level 3.
Best wishes to you as well, Gerrit,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Thank you very much for your quick and comprehensive answer!
I think beyond Earth there is an infinite invisible (to us) world where zillions and zillions of spirits live. And from what I’ve ever read, the spirit world is incredibly creative. That’s where my question comes from. Why would one in the spirit world create an exact copy of what exists on Earth. Including the living trees…, and the ‘living’ person in the vicinity of the 4 pillars…
That requires incredibly complex technology…
Even on our planet we don’t like copying something blindly…
I’m not accusing anyone of anything, but these 2 photos gave me huge doubts.
Thanks again,
Gerrit
Hi Gerrit,
Thanks for the background.
I believe like you do… that there are virtually infinite worlds and entities flourishing throughout the cosmos.
I think it helps to understand ITC just by realizing (according to our spirit friends) that the information isn’t really created by them and then delivered to us, the way we make a product here on Earth and give it to someone.
The information that passes through an ITC bridge actually evolves from the collective consciousness on both ends of the bridge.
I think that’s the simple answer as to why so much spirit information through ITC (and through channeling) often looks and sounds familiar to us.
Not an easy concept to assimilate; at least it wasn’t easy for me to assimilate.
Timestream said that at one point they tried to develop a system that would sort of filter out the “noise” of earthy thinking during their contacts, to deliver information to us as clean and pure as possible. Sometimes they seemed to be pretty successful, and other times not too successful. I don’t think that filter process was ever perfected by the time INIT ended.
Mark
Gerrit, while dredging up all of the old ITC contacts for this series of articles I came across this old article (added below) which might provide a few more answers. It describes the nature and personalities of the Timestream spirits. While they seem to be a win-win, live-and-let-live community, there are still differences of opinion and headstrong attitudes among them. They all have different personalities and special skills that they can use in deciding what information to send to Earth. (But the final decisions at Timestream were apparently made by those Seven finer beings, who said at one point that they gave a lot of leeway to Swejen Salter and her spirit group.)
So, those factors about decision-making might also have come into play when the “Jules Verne Temple” picture got delivered to Maggy’s electronic devices. Just a thought.
Anyway, these are the kinds of complicated things I have to sort through in the coming weeks. Mark
Another brief answer about the quality of that particular (temple) picture.
It’s the highest quality of the picture I have.
I probably had a slightly better copy of it that got burned up in our house fire in December 2021, along with our computers.
Maggy Fischbach in Luxembourg probably still has the original, but I’ve been out of touch with her for more than 20 years.
How awful that you had a house fire. I hope there is no personal suffering and all is well again.
About the temple photo… Actually, I think the quality of the so-called spirit photo is very good… Much better than other spirit photos. How is that possible?
I think it cannot be otherwise than that this temple photo has no spirit origin. I enlarged the two photos and compared them. Apart from the ‘distortions’ they are almost 100% the same. What I now think is that some prankster put the Earth photo of the temple with some changes on the computer in Luxembourg.
That’s not that hard. And certainly not at that time. Simpler computers with ditto software and not much security.
Why would anyone do this? I don’t know…
Why would the spirit group use this Earth picture? I don’t know either, but it’s not smart.
Why would they use a photo that could potentially lead to negative discussion?
I may come across as rude, but that’s absolutely not my intention.
I am very glad that you answered me so comprehensively. Thanks again!
Gerrit
Thanks Gerrit,
Wife Regina and I have come through the disaster remarkably well.
We lost all our stuff, but it happened late in the game (we’re both in our 70s).
We’d already started to emotionally detach from worldy trappings.
We’re happy in our little condo across the street from a lake.
Nice neighbors at the moment (some of the condos are rental apartments).
But the fire was just one of many dramas.
As Frank Sinatra says… “That’s life…”
Anyway…
If I found out that that temple picture WAS a hoax, I guess I’d do what Frank says at the end of the song.
“I’d just roll myself up in a big ball… and die. My My.”
Then I’d wake up on the other side, get settled into a nice spirit community, and have a good chuckle.
“That darned Earth…” 🙂
Meanwhile, I still believe the temple picture’s a real ITC contact, despite evidence (and common sense?) to the contrary.
I think it all hinges on that question you ask, which is key:
“Why would they use a photo that could potentially lead to negative discussion?”
Well, maybe they wanted to stir a lively debate to get us thinking about these things.
That’s the best I can figure, and it’s just a guess.
I think you’re being sensible and smart to be discerning, certainly not rude.
(I just hope you’re wrong. 🙂 )
I enjoy our discussion.
Mark
Hi Mark,
It’s great that neither of you suffered any personal damage. Luckily we didn’t experience a house fire, and I hope it never will…
We are also in our 70’s…
I am personally convinced that the ‘spirit’ temple photo is definitely not of a palace in the spirit world. That is ashame.
I would really like to see a lot more of the ‘spirit’ architecture.
Another remarkable thing about the ‘spirit’ photo.
The ‘spirit’ photo was published in 1994. About that time many ‘spirit’ photos were published in color. And guess what, the ‘spirit’ temple photo is in black and white. Of course, there were no color photographs in 1928… I would have found it more believable if it was color. Yes, and preferably from a building from the spirit world!
Oh yeah, and never do what Frank Sinatra sings at the end of the song…
Gerrit
Hi Gerrit,
I’ve been reading through all of the “ITC Gems” the last couple of weeks as research for this series of articles, and I came across this quote, which addresses this issue of “spirit pictures” like the temple in question:
Timestream, 1991: “There is a sort of filter system used in the transmission of photos between dimensions. The filter modifies the sent photos according to the memories, ideas and expectations of the receivers. This causes some pictures to be altered to the point where they are similar to earthside photos.”
I’m not sure if it’s a quote from one of our spirit friends or an explanation by researchers who were in communication with them.
It refers to spirit pictures being “similar to earthside photos,” but doesn’t go so far as to say “identical to…”
So I can still understand people being skeptical of that particular temple picture.
I still give the benefit of the doubt to the Harsch-Fischbach couple and our spirit friends. I think it’s a legitimate ITC contact.
So… I probably (hopefully?) won’t be following Frank Sinatra’s lead… “roll myself up in a big ball and die”. 🙂
Mark
Hi Mark,
Thanks for your reply again!!!
In the meantime I’ve read about your entire site… Very Interesting… But…
Maybe I’m difficult, but I’m left with a lot of questions…
Including the temple in question.
Why would the “spirit” people adapt the sent photos to the memories, ideas and expectations of the recipients? What’s the point?
I myself would like to be surprised with images of a real “spirit” building or something. Not a picture from my memory or what the “spirit” people think what I think it should look like. I like to see something I don’t expect. Something no one has ever seen. And that we “Earth” people should never be able to find on the internet or from any other source.
That would be more credible to me than a known (1928) “Earth” photo with added distortions.
At random about another picture:
From ‘Nsitden,’ “one of The Seven.” Don’t get angry but when I see that picture I think it’s a very bad picture of a nice 14 year old girl. So not what i expect…
This photo is apparently not filtered. Why why why?
Best regards and stay healthy
Gerrit
Hi Gerrit,
I think I addressed some of those concerns in my next article that I posted a couple days ago. If not, I’ll probably get to them in future articles in the series.
It’s been a genuine pleasure chatting with you,
Mark
(PS — I think that finer beings like “The Seven” probably have the beauty, purity, and wonder that young girls on Earth have… as well as the brilliant wisdom and power that seem almost god-likek to us humans. Maybe that’s why they appear to us the way they do in that “Nsitden” picture?)