Philosophy 06: Free Will vs Fate

Free will and fate are at the crossroads of a lifetime.

What plays the bigger role in shaping our lives:

  • Free will (the conscious choices we make in this lifetime), or
  • Fate (being subtly, relentlessly pulled toward a preordained life path)?

Well, that might just depend on what we consider to be more important—the tangibles or the intangibles.

  • Tangible things that shape our lives (brain, hormones, DNA…) are generally associated with our free will.
  • Intangible things (mind, karma, soul purpose…) are generally associated with our fate.

Generally speaking, scientists and doctors deal with the tangible, mystics and metaphysicians deal with the intangible, and psychologists stand at the crossroads to unravel “consciousness,” where the intangible (mind) meets the tangible (brain).

I suspect that the more we acknowledge and understand all of those forces associated with our fate and free will, the more meaningful our lives can be. After all, they’re almost entirely responsible for who we are, what we do, when we do it, why we do it, and how well we do it.

(Incidentally, I believe there’s one ultimate force that can optimize our lives regardless of those tangible and intangible forces and their effects on us. We’ll consider that at the end of the article. Meanwhile…)

How about a quick look at all of those tangibles and intangibles to get a sense of the profound impact they have on us?

The Science of Human Behavior

Science today explores the tangible things that shape our lives, especially our brain, hormones, and heredity (DNA). To get a better understanding of how they all work in the body, we can compare them to the way familiar things work in the world:

  • The brain is the government that monitors all the nerves that spread through the body like an internet, sharing information with all the major organs. So the nervous system is a government-controlled internet.
  • Hormones are millions of squishy little flash drives that travel through the bloodstream and plug into the nervous system to tell the brain and nerves what to do under certain conditions. So hormones are like expert government contractors working on special projects… maybe assigned to a crisis task force.
  • DNA is the operating system for the entire body, like Microsoft Windows or Apple’s macOS or Google’s Android. Nearly every cell in the body has an identical copy of the operating system, just as every computer or smartphone in the world has an operating system that’s identical with others of its ilk.

Brain and Nerves—the Body’s Government-Controlled Internet

The nervous system is like an internet inside us that connects all the major organs, most importantly the brain. The brain is, literally, the “head honcho.” 🙂 It’s where the biggest decisions are made.

In fact, as scientists delve deeper and deeper into the amazing, intricate, lightning-fast communication among the brain lobes and among the neurons (nerve cells throughout the network), there’s a growing consensus at the ardent core of mainstream science that…

  1. the brain wields complete control over all of our thoughts, memories, and dreams (Read more: researchgate/brain-Implants… ), and
  2. the mind and brain are one and the same thing (Read more: verywellmind/biopsychology… ).

(Suppositions like that can stir debate. It’s like saying the hardware and software in a computer are one and the same thing, which isn’t true. A computer’s hardware (chips and circuits) and software (coded instructions) are very different, designed by different engineers. On the other hand, if we argue that the physical body with its brain is a living computer that writes its own software, then suppositions like these begin to make sense. That’s something we’ll try to sort out by the end of the article.)

Hormones and Neurotransmitters—Squishy Little Thumb Drives

Glands leak hormones (chemical messengers) into the bloodstream that tell the brain and nerves what to do. (Read more: lumenlearning/endocrine… )

If the brain and nervous system are the body’s government-controlled internet, then hormones are specialists, often part of a crisis task force. They’re mobilized by the glands and sent through the bloodstream whenever they’re needed. They’re made of molecules that contain instructions that are delivered to the brain and nerves.

We have about 50 kinds of hormones coursing through us, delivering their unique instructions at important times—such as when we 1) grow through adolescence and adulthood into old age, 2) face a threat, 3) want to have sex, or 4) need something to eat or drink. (read more: tutor2u… )

Behavioral endocrinology is the study of how hormones and behavior influence each other. Hormones can stimulate certain behavior, and our behavior can stimulate hormones. (Read more: noba/hormones-behavior… )

For example, our happy moments can cause glands to release happy hormones like dopamine and oxytocin. When we’re angry or afraid, our glands release fight-or-flight hormones like adrenaline and cortisol. Then, those hormones stream through us to stimulate even more happiness or anger or fear, in a sort of snowball effect. And we react accordingly. Hormones affect many of our emotions but not all of our emotions, as we’ll consider in a moment.* First, though, a note about neurotransmitters, a sort of sedentary cousin to the itinerant hormones.

Neurotransmitters move information across the synapse (gap) between neurons (nerve cells).

Neurotransmitters are like mini-hormones that work from home. They’re chemically similar to hormones—often identical—but instead of traveling through the body in the bloodstream, they live at the contact points (synapses) between neurons. They simply deliver information from the axon of one nerve cell to the dendrite of the next nerve cell.


So the brain, nerves, hormones, and neurotransmitters are mostly about communication—the distribution of information throughout the body, whether it’s in the form of energy impulses streaming through the “bio-internet” of brain and nerves, or whether it’s in the form of molecules delivered to the nerves like squishy little thumb drives (hormones and neurotransmitters).

Lots of studies underway in neuroscience, endocrinology, and neuroendocrinology are quickly unraveling the mysteries of the brain and hormones and their impact on our behavior. (read more: frontiers in… )

(*Mainstream scientists lean toward the notion that all of our emotions are produced by our brain, or at least by our brain and hormones together. (Read more:… ). However, intangible influences like karma and soul purpose, if they’re real, suggest that some of our emotions might come as part of the package before we’re born, or before we’re even conceived. More about that in a moment, but first…)

Heredity and DNA—Humanity’s Operating System

There’s another science that studies not just our behavior and emotions but also our personality and physical traits. That’s the science of genetics.

Geneticists study our DNA, long strands of molecules that can be found—packaged up elaborately inside chromosomes—in each of the 30 trillion cells in a human body (except red blood cells and dead outer skin cells, which don’t have DNA).

DNA is identical in all humans. Well, 99.9 percent of the DNA is identical. It’s called the “human genome” and is essentially humanity’s operating system. It defines the basic structure and behavior of every person on the planet. (read more: genome… )

So if everyone’s genome is the same, then why don’t we all look like identical twins?

That’s where the other 0.1 percent of DNA comes into play. That tiny proportion of the DNA is a massive set of specialized, personal apps that work directly with the operating system to define you and me individually.

The personalized DNA apps carry the blueprints for much of our individual behavior, physical structure, and personality. Many of those traits have been inherited from our parents, since we get our chromosomes from them.

Here’s just a small sampling of traits that are determined by our DNA apps—that 0.1 percent of the DNA molecule:

  • Tolerance for pain and spicy food, sneezing at bright light, distinctive facial expressions, love or hate of exercise, whether we like to sleep at night or during the day, insomnia, vulnerability to addictive substances such as nicotine and alcohol and heroin, sweaty palms, infidelity, sense of adventure, what foods are good for us personally, aggression, tendency to trust, ability to smell sulfur in asparagus pee or to taste bitter PTC (phenylthiocarbamide) in brussels sprouts, craving for sugar, optimism or pessimism, earlobe attachment, tongue-rolling, cleft chin, hairline shape, dimples, freckles, curly or straight hair, right- or left-handedness, hand-clasping, bent little finger, allergies, color-blindedness, skin color, eye color, early onset myopia, poor driving skills, fear of dentists, popularity, procrastination, how fast we age, empathy, sweatiness, musical ability, musical taste, diabetes risk in men, attractiveness in women, athleticism, and intelligence.

Whew! Our DNA molecules (along with our brain and hormones) have a huge influence on who we are and how we behave. They actually shape much of our “free will.”

In fact, some scientists wonder if there really is such a thing as “free will,” since most of the choices we make from day to day aren’t really made by “you” and “me” per se, but by our brain, hormones, and DNA. (read more: scientificAmerican… )

The Spirit of Human Behavior

Mind, karma, and soul-purpose are intangible forces that accompany us into a lifetime on Earth and seem to nudge us relentlessly toward a preordained life path. They’re sometimes lumped together under the term fate.

Mind—Timeless Software

The mind is multidimensional… a timeless software package that apparently works with and monitors the brain and DNA during a lifetime. (read more: sand… )

George W Meek, founder of Metascience, liked to say, “Our mind, memory banks, personality, and soul survive death of the physical body.”

(Statements like that rattled me back in the early 1990s when I met George in his final years and agreed to help him document his extensive metaphysical research. My solid agnostic worldview had been shaken recently by a brush with death (colon cancer in 1988), so those kinds of afterlife descriptions had an exotic (if rather scary) appeal. It was an exciting time for me, and it planted a seed that would sprout into all of the afterlife research I’ve done since then. — MM)

While mainstream scientists suggest that the mind and brain are the same thing, I prefer George Meek’s implication that the mind and spirit are the same thing. The mind is the living essence of you and me, and it exists with or without the physical body and brain. When we fall asleep and the brain shuts down, the mind enjoys adventures in dreamy spirit realms close to the Earth in vibration. When we die and the brain dies, the mind bids the Earth good-bye and gets settled into a spirit world.

Karma and Reincarnation—Refining our “Ship’s Log”

The source (God, Allah, Brahman…) emits a life-energy that creates and nourishes everything in many parallel universes (fine, white circles), which can be divided into seven arbitrary levels. The interactions between our physical self (level 1) and our subtle selves determine our fate. Karma is one of those interactions.

As we navigate a lifetime on Earth, karma is the ship’s log—a record of important events along the journey. Our every significant action or reaction is noted in the ship’s log and compared to what a “perfect” action would have been in that situation.

“Perfect” behavior is simply behavior that resonates with the source. If we could be motivated only by such things as love, truth, generosity, and service to others, then we would rarely harm anyone or anything, and never intentionally.

I believe we all try to live that way as best we can because we have the source at the center of our being, always urging us toward perfection… but day-to-day living gets in the way.

Earth (at level 1) is far removed from the source (which is beyond level 7). Our world is full of predators, parasites, and competitors. Not only are they all around us, but we all share some of their dark symbiotic compulsions inside us. So we’re far from “perfect,” at least on the biological “outside.”

We can’t help but feel hurt or repulsed or angry or afraid once in a while… to act with deception or aggression or selfishness or callousness sometimes. It’s in our blood… (literally, in the form of hormones). We need some of those dark compulsions just to adapt and survive in a world full of harsh surprises.

All of our thoughts and feelings spin off the Earth—the nice ones drifting into finer universes closer to the source, the naughty ones getting trapped in Earth’s shadow, which is a repository for all our dark thinking, since there’s nowhere else for it to go. And all of those thoughts and feelings get recorded in the ship’s log. They become our karma. (read more: huffpost… )

Our karma determines our afterlife experience to a large degree, since our ship’s log is part of the baggage that we lug along into the spirit worlds after we die:

  • On one hand, it makes sense that if most of our lifetime thoughts and feelings had drifted into finer realms, then that’s where our spirit or mind is likely to be pulled after we die. If most of our thoughts and feelings had been of the darker symbiotic kind, then we’ll probably be drawn into Earth’s shadow for a while… until we can work through our karma and clean things up a bit.
  • On the other hand, our spirit friends implied (in ITC contacts in the 1990s) that they try to get as many people from Earth as possible settled into the paradise world at level 3, and they try to help us polish up our karma—clean up our ship’s log—during a rejuvenating sleep that typically lasts about six weeks of Earth time. The regenerating sleep happens right after we die, and it helps us get settled into paradise living. (read more… through the afterlife experience of the late scientist Konrad Lorenz.)

Usually it’s easier to clean up our karma while we’re still alive on Earth—before we die—and that’s where reincarnation comes into play. If we get a little morbid in this lifetime and can’t get comfortable in paradise after we die, then we can try again. Our mind or spirit gets lots of opportunities (lifetimes) to polish up the karma that we’ve accumulated on Earth.

At the center of everything is the source, depicted here as the three primordial forces of Hinduism: Brahma (creator), Vishnu (preserver), and Shiva (destroyer). Simply put, we humans emerge from the source, live a lifetime, then return to the source. Then we do it all over again (and again and again…) until the cycle of reincarnation is complete.

Reincarnation. Members of our INIT group (1996-2000) received several illuminating messages about reincarnation. Our spirit friends say they’re living in a world called Eden or Marduk at level 3 (see the “Life-Energy” diagram above). Most people from Earth (level 1) awaken at level 3 after they die, according to our spirit friends. Here’s what they say about reincarnation:

Reincarnation involves levels 1-3 (described by spirit friend Swejen Salter). While the third spirit plane is a product of the human mind, it is as much a reality as is planet Earth. People whose ideas and beliefs agree with each other come together here in groups and form one unity. This unity is the stepping stone to the fourth dimension. After crossing into the fourth dimension, also called The Summerland, the human being is relieved of the laws of reincarnation. We live along the banks of the River of Eternity along with those who were once living on Earth. There are animals here. Vegetation varies from algae to mammoth trees. Many buildings are made of wood. Some people or animals wake up here already reborn into bodies at the prime of life. Others come to us as old people and turn young again after the regenerating sleep. Why there are such differences, we do not know. At the end of the growth or rejuvenation process most people will be 25-30 years old (in appearance). Animals also will be at an age of vitality and well-being, since ethical factors are not involved here. Damaged tissue or broken bones regenerate just like wounds heal in your world but much more perfect. Lost limbs will regrow. The blind will see again, and so on. The color of your hair and skin cannot be changed and will be the same as it was during your Earth life. (Read more… )

Laws of reincarnation (explained by a higher being). The human soul returns to Earth often enough to learn all human life experiences…. Reincarnation is a constant evolution that moves forward, beginning with minerals, moving to plants and animals, then to human beings. There is no backwards evolution. The human soul does not return to Earth in the body of an animal. Nor is reincarnation always a process of reparation in this life for a past life. If people around you are hard hit by fate, do not always assume that they have to make up for past transgressions. Never judge! You may be wrong and are burdening yourself by your judgment. There are people whose grief and sickness were not imposed on them because of past karma. They used their own free will (at the spiritual or subconscious level) to select a more difficult road (during a physical lifetime) to reach their goals faster. (read more… )

Techniques of reincarnation (phone call between Maggy Fischbach on Earth and Swejen Salter in spirit, at level 3).

Maggy: What comes next when they make up their mind (to return to Earth)? Are there special locations for re-embodiment?

Swejen: When a person of our group has finally decided on reincarnation, higher beings consult with each other about his thoughts and wishes which led him to this decision. When higher beings have consented to a new reincarnation or have motivated a being for such a decision, the person is led to a special building provided for reincarnations.

Maggy: That reminds me a little of dying on our side. Describe the procedure for me, please. Does the person concerned take leave from close spiritual sisters or brothers?

Swejen: The procedure is similar to people’s arrival here, only this time it is a going back. The person is placed in what looks like a bathtub. His body, which on this level usually takes on an average age of 25-30 years, begins to change and becomes increasingly younger and smaller. It returns to the state of a child and then to a baby and finally to a small cell. By the time the body has become a cell, it is no longer present here among us. The cell has meanwhile arrived in the female body of a human being. (read more… )


So, if we can accept the validity of ITC contacts like these that were received by our INIT group (as I certainly do), then we now have a better understanding of why and how reincarnation and karma affect a lifetime on Earth.

Soul Purpose—Back To the Source

Soul-stirring creations like this come from people who follow their soul purpose. Daybreak, by Maxfield Parrish (1922), the most popular painting of the 20th Century, based on the number of prints sold.

Our soul purpose is both simple and complicated.

  • Simple: Every soul purpose is essentially the same: To resonate with the source in our thoughts, words, and actions. That is, to flourish with such noble motivations as love, truth, generosity, and service to others. (Knowing that we’re always connected to the source makes life easier, as we see near the end of the article: There is no separation, only oneness at the spiritual level.)
  • Complicated: As life spreads through the omniverse and follows its free will, it diverges from the source—especially in outlying worlds like ours where there evolve parasites, predators, and competition. Once we’re born into a divergent world like Earth and grow up acclimated to it, our soul purpose then is to find our way back to the source by making inspired life choices that give us peace and joy and, well, just make us “feel right.”

So our soul purpose during a lifetime on Earth is determined by how far we’ve diverged, personally, from the source—to what degree we’ve allowed our self to feel separated… adrift. And that depends on both:

  1. The tangibles—the health and integrity of our brain, endocrine system (hormones), and DNA, and
  2. The intangibles—the condition of our mind (spirit) and the karma that we bring into this lifetime from previous lifetimes.

Whether we’re born rich or poor, gifted or challenged… or attractive, adventurous, trusting, or vulnerable to addiction… we all have a deep-down desire to find our soul purpose and follow it. We all want, more than anything, to return to the source, even if we don’t realize it consciously.

Finding our soul purpose for this lifetime isn’t easy for most of us. We’re not all child prodigies, who seem to know from infancy why they’ve come to Earth with special gifts.

If our own soul purpose for this lifetime seems elusive, we can ask questions like these to try to find it (composed by Diana Raab; read more: psychologyToday… ):

  • What am I good at?
  • What part of my day is joyful?
  • What brought me joy as a child?
  • What in my life no longer serves me—emotionally, physically, and spiritually?
  • Are there any synchronistic events that could be a clue to my soul purpose?
  • Have I had any accidents or illnesses that served as wake-up calls for me?
  • Who are my role models and icons?
  • What do I often teach others?
  • What are my dreams and desires?
  • How do I help others transform?
  • If I had one year to live, what would I do?    

Answering these questions can help remind us of our own soul purpose for this lifetime.

Conclusion: the Big Picture

Let’s cut to the chase, then tie up a few loose ends.

The Key to Everything: Conscious Contact with the Source

While we’re alive on Earth, many of us are never completely satisfied with who we are, what we have, and what we’ve accomplished.

The surest way to overcome that niggling insecurity is to foster conscious contact with the source that rests at the center of our being… at the center of everyone and everything. Awareness of that connection restores peace and well-being.

Even when it feels like our life is unravelling (for example, with a serious illness or an addiction in the family), or when our country is unravelling (with riots and divisiveness), or when the whole world is unravelling (with wars, plagues, and environmental destruction)—especially in those difficult times—we can still find the greatest peace and happiness by fostering conscious contact with the source.

After all, the source creates and nourishes all of the countless universes and everything in them with its relentless stream of life-energy. Once we start opening ourselves up, we begin to feel changes inside us. A growing peacefulness lets us experience life and its circumstances with ever-greater understanding, humor, and grace.

Meditation is one great technique to foster conscious contact with the source, especially a good heart meditation (which I’ve described elsewhere… )

Setting aside a few minutes each day to meditate with the clear intention of making conscious contact with the source—especially at those times when troubles weigh heavily—can slowly and steadily push aside those tangible and intangible forces that stir up our emotions, pull us toward darkness, and otherwise block our connection to the source. The more we meditate, the smoother it gets to purify the connection—that is, to establish conscious contact with the source.

Conscious contact with the source is the key message of most enlightened mystics, including (recently):

  • Joel Goldsmith and his “Infinite Way” (read more… ),
  • Marianne Williamson and the “Course in Miracles” that changed her life (read more… ),
  • Wayne Dyer with his “Power of Intention” (read more… ), and
  • All traditional “12-step” programs—the 11th step being, “Seek through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God….”

Brilliant Hardware and Timeless Software

The body is a brilliantly designed machine, and the brain is a supercomputer that runs the whole operation as best it can.

What makes the supercomputer so smart, though, isn’t the hardware with its limited lifetime warranty. What makes the brain brilliant is the timeless mind or spirit that comes into a lifetime to use the brain and body as a vehicle in which to navigate the Earth with all of its exotic symbiotic relationships.

It’s quite a trip, a lifetime on Earth, with so many captivating illusions for the mind to experience, especially:

  1. a stressful sense of being adrift—separated from the source (which, of course, we are not), and
  2. a scary sense of duality—good and evil—as though the dark, deviant dramas that spin out of predatory, parasitic, and competitive behavior actually have any real power (which, of course, they do not).

The reality is:

  1. we are eternally connected to the source, even if we don’t consciously remember the connection from day to day, and
  2. the only genuine power in the omniverse is the source and its life-energy that creates and nourishes everything.

Source Motivations and Earthly Emotions

During a lifetime our emotions and behavior are always pulled in two general directions—outward into the world (which is illusory), and in-beyond toward the source (which is real).

The source is at the center of our being, compelling us toward fine and noble thoughts and feelings such as love, truth, generosity, and service to others.

The world is all around us, urging us to get a well-rounded education in tough-love classroom Earth… to feel not just those brilliant source emotions that come from “mutualistic” behavior, but also their dark opposites (such as fear, deception, selfishness, and callousness) that spin out of competitive, parasitic, and predatory behavior. (read more about Earth’s symbiosis… )

There are lots of complex rules and laws about how to get along in this complex world, but there’s only one way to find a true and lasting peace on Earth despite its complexities, and that is:

To simply clear and cultivate our personal lifeline to the source.

Gradually, then, we begin to detach emotionally from the brutal, illusory aspects of terrestrial living and to feel less and less suffering from its effects. We begin to feel more pain from the suffering we ourselves have imposed on other living things, so we carefully try to avoid doing that. These are natural, healing side-effects of fostering conscious contact with the source while living on Planet Earth.


Most of our ancestors and late loved ones have gotten settled into a paradise world at level 3 since their death, and some of them will probably be there to greet us when we “go home” at the end of our own lifetime.

Their world is like a copy of Earth that’s had most of the competitive, parasitic, and predatory behavior polished away. Diseases, deformities, and old age also disappear at level 3, where people look and behave much as they did on Earth in the prime of life but in a healthier, kinder, more trusting, more refined way.

They can eat delicious foods and live in luxurious homes made of wood, although these things are sort of mentally fabricated. No animals or trees have to die to provide food and building materials at level 3. They can even have sex, though no one gets pregnant. At level 3 there’s no real need for this sort of thing—food, shelter, or sex—but people can enjoy it in paradise (if they wish to) simply because it had made them happy on Earth. After all, paradise is about happiness, as well as service and community. (read more… )

Eventually a person at level 3 (maybe after many lifetimes on Earth) will ascend to finer levels toward the source. At level 4, most earthly pleasures like food, shelter, and sex hold no meaning as a person becomes more inclined toward finer things such as love, trust, generosity, and service.


So these are the things that have the biggest impact on our quality of life and state of mind here on Earth:

  • Tangible things like the brain, hormones, and heredity, which are sometimes lumped together as “free will,” and
  • Intangible things like mind, karma, and soul purpose, which help determine our “fate.”

The tangible things lead us out into the illusory world. The intangible things lead us in-beyond toward the source and its timeless truth.

The only way to bring a lasting peace and happiness more and more into our lives is to cultivate conscious contact with the source, which is at the center of the “all-that-is,” constantly creating and nourishing everything everywhere.


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28 Responses to Philosophy 06: Free Will vs Fate

  1. John R.M. Day says:

    The physiology of life and life after life has never been more nicely expressed!
    I contemplated this post all day long.
    I’ll read this again and visit some of those links.
    Fabulous Mark…thank you!

    • Mark Macy says:

      Many thanks John,
      This was a particularly hard one to write. So much information to absorb about the brain, hormones, and DNA, then filter-filter-filter, polish-polish-polish down to what seemed like good, basic information… finding appropriate pictures… removing paragraphs, changing sentences, finding the perfect word like “ardent” or “divergent” that (hopefully) won’t offend…. Whew.
      Onward…. 🙂

  2. Tom Rawlings says:

    Feedback: I read this your latest writing. It’s incredible and informative. Thank you. I haven’t seen, (though), where you have, if you have, written on Jesus, or Christ, and I can’t help but wonder why. I was raised in a Christian family, and would not be ‘me’ without the guidance of His words. To me, at least, they impart a ‘social responsibility’ in this life, that, apparently, translates into spiritual dimensions after death. This belief is guiding my life now. I would greatly appreciate your comments as you are one of only a few I know who know about the spirit people.
    I hope Mr Hoyes got some relief for his condition. How incredible it would have been to help in that. My nerve problem is getting a little better thanks to the anti inflammatory diet I learned about at the VA. Thank you again Mark. I appreciate what you say very much. Tom Rawlings

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi Tom, around the time I met Maggy Fischbach and Jules Harsch (early 1990s), they received a message from their spirit friends, who had recently been accompanied by a higher being (“Technician”) to visit Jesus Christ. They reported to Maggy:

      “He is a being of such pure Light that it is almost blinding to look at him and of such divine beauty that tears rolled down my cheeks.”

      There’s a bit more information about that meeting, in this article…

      I went to Methodist Sunday school and church growing up, then Regina and I joined a nearby Lutheran church for a number of years while our son was growing up. I certainly agree that a good religion can instill a sense of social responsibility. Regina grew up Catholic with fleeting dreams of being a nun. Today she considers herself a mystical Christian who views Christ as a vital source of light in the world. I agree. We have friends with other religious backgrounds who agree that their religions bring great light into the world.

      Thanks for asking about John Hoys (Regina’s dad). Our impression is that John (as well as her mom, my parents, and other departed relatives) are doing real well, though we’re no longer in direct contact with any of them through ITC communication bridges. Just a sense we get while thinking about them. John had a difficult life (lost a brother in the war, struggled with alcoholism until he quit drinking around the time Regina was born, then got badly burned at work and lived with neuropathy the rest of his life. In one of my spirit face photos that I took of our son Aaron, his grandpa John Hoys (who died before Aaron was born) showed up prominently with a huge smile on his face. Absolutely delighted in his new life in spirit. You can see that picture and others here:
      (At the time I posted those pictures, I was careful not to use the real names of the people in the photos, since the technology was kind of radical at the time, and maybe scary to some people. My son Aaron is referred to as “Bryan,” and the picture of “Andy” is actually my brother Tony.)

      All the best to you, Tom.


    • Mark Macy says:

      Regina reminded me: She was around 5 when her dad quit drinking. Before that she remembers him being carried through the front door by her two uncles. After he became sober (quit drinking once and for all), he was a loving, doting, supportive, talkative dad, even though he rarely smiled. When he showed up in the spirit-face photo, Regina was delighted by his big smile! 🙂

      • Tom Rawlings says:

        Will look fo that photo! I recorded something about getting a camera, never was my thing, but who knows, something extraordinary is around every corner for me these days!

      • Tom Rawlings says:

        Can’t figure out who’s who…

        • Mark Macy says:

          Hm, thanks Tom. It isn’t explained well in the cutline under the 4 pictures, so….

          Left: the 12-year-old (my son)
          Next: the 12-year-old (holding a match), but his face is replaced by the face of his late grandfather.
          Next: again, the 12-year-old’s face is replaced by the face of his late grandfather.
          Last: His grandfather as a young man with his daughter (now my wife) on his knee at the NJ shore.

          What makes the spirit face photos (taken in 1998) evidential (to me, at least) is that when my wife first saw them, she gasped, “That’s my dad! Aaron, that’s your grandpa!” She recognized him immediately.


          • Tom Rawlings says:

            The third picture clearly shows a man’s face over the younger Aaron’s. And the smile. Wow. Are Illuminators available for sale?

          • Mark Macy says:

            Hi Tom,

            Luminators used for spirit-face photos went out of vogue when Polaroid stopped making its classic 600 film. It seemed to be the only film that produced consistent results. All told, I think there were only about 8 of the luminators made, and they were used mostly for therapy. (They were kind of pricey.; I paid $15,000 for mine.) The “spirit faces” that showed up in the Polaroids were just an oddity that wasn’t dwelt upon… except by me. They were important in my afterlife research.

            I “sold” my luminator to a fellow in Italy a couple of years ago with the understanding he’d send me a couple hundred bucks (or Euros) a month as long as he wanted the device. If he tired of it, he could send it back at anytime. He paid for a few months, then suddenly I heard nothing more from him. Not sure if the pandemic or some other calamity caused the shutdown of communication, but I’ve been unable to contact him.

            I suspect I might get a note from Customs someday to say a big package has arrived from Italy and I have to pay a customs fee to pick it up or have it delivered. Till then… ???


            • Tom Rawlings says:

              Wow, what an incredible act of patience on your part. I wish you would get it back, for all our sakes. Guess what I got yesterday- Karl Steinberg’s, Spectralayers Pro 7, 30 day trial. Wow, what an incredible program- I had thought there must be this kind of app, knowing a little about Photoshop, and by golly there is! What a gift to humanity it is… I brought my laptop home from computer shop, (I couldn’t figure out how to load it myself), and used it on an sct where my dad answered me- and how that program brought out the “i” in the word “pipe”!!!!! I haven’t worked with wav’s in weeks since learning Audacity’s spectral editor. Now this! Blessings, blessings, blessings!!!!! Thanks again for all you do Mark. Tom

            • Mark Macy says:

              Hi Tom,
              Like you, I’m a long-time Audacity user. Haven’t heard of spectralayer, so googled it.
              Sounds promising! I probably won’t use it anytime soon, since I’m not much involved anymore with audio recording and editing. But please let me know of your further breakthroughs… and I might change my mind. 🙂


  3. Tom Rawlings says:

    Will reply where text isn’t squished.

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi Tom, I found your follow-up comment in the big comments section of the home page:
      “Been using Spectralayers Pro 7 a few days now- sort of speechless it’s so incredible. Uses AI. I believe I made contact with my dad, which is a biggie for me. He told me what I had sent home from Hong Kong, a gift to him, and my mom. Every time I turn this program on I learn more it can do, no need to type numbers in for amount of applied effect, just use sliders. You still need Audacity. It doesn’t do recording or basic editing. I practiced a little on your “Konrad the cat” file when I was first learning. I hear a ladies voice, these words… ‘Arthur. Konrad the cat. is Arthur’s pet.’ That is, the extra name at the front. It’s in the noise. A lady-like tone to it. Those tones are the key. That’s how you know it’s the person- the tone is unique. I think these incredible tools are from their side, the Kingdom. Tom”

      Thanks for that insight into the spectralayers app. (The “Konrad the cat” detail is especially meaningful to me, of course. 🙂 ) It would be nice if someone would share that information about spectralayers with ITC researcher who are still active… if they don’t already know about it. (I’ve lost touch over the years with that evolving network of researchers.)

      I also have used photoshop for years, to edit images, and I’m still learning of new capabilities that amazing package has. If I were younger I’d love to play with spectralayers. Can it export audio files like wav’s and mp3’s? If so, I’d love to hear the tone-adjusted version of the Arthur Beckwiths’ “Konrad the cat” message.


    • Mark Macy says:

      PS, Tom….

      My gut tells me the name “Arthur” was spoken by our spirit friend Swejen Salter, who was director of Timestream spirit group at the time, working mostly with Maggy Fischbach in Luxembourg. Swejen was probably introducing Arthur Beckwith (probably holding our late cat Konrad in his arms at the time of the contact). Timestream had told me earlier, in a series of contacts through Maggy, that Arthur Beckwith (a late-19th-Century Brooklyn journalist) had joined the spirit group who were working with me at the time. Whew… so much backstory!……..

      Wishing you the best of success,

  4. kate says:

    I find this article so very thought provoking. Free Will Vs Fate and the great complexities of those subjects have been condensed into such a brilliantly written article.

    Best wishes to everyone

  5. Tom Rawlings says:

    Hi Mark, I’m at the library so I can respond- my phone is almost out of data so I can’t use that for this. I’ll send the Konrad clip to your email. Wow- Arthur is of the 1800’s. I contacted my GGGG grandfather William Weems, who was a captain of privateers in the Revolutionary war. I say that, and the voice is a new one for me, but of course I can not know for sure. I would bet it is though. I think my dad got him to come and speak to me. He was my dad’s GGG grandfather.

    I downloaded an article, (from this site?) about how they speak, not having the physical apparatus for doing so any longer. Very interesting. Do you know of any serious sources where I can learn more about the subject of validating a voice? I figure when they have information that only they, and I, know, it must be them. I’m sure it’s who I think it is when the voice sounds like the one I know. But of course I could not know William Weems. Any advice on this?

    Today I asked if they know about you. A lady said, “that’s the one who talks to him’, then a man continued, ‘who makes Tom smile’, then he concluded, ‘That’s OK’, in a very nice tone. They are about the only people I talk with nowadays!!! But seriously, you are unique. Who else does this? or takes this seriously? I don’t know anyone, I’m going to google Arthur Beckwith!
    Thanks again Mark, for talking to us little people in the world.

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi Tom,
      Validating spirit contacts is sometimes a real challenge. I think ITC is at the crossroads of faith and evidence… between belief and solid theories or proof, which you and I have talked about. Sounds like your Spectralayers program could be real useful in gathering evidence.
      ITC experimenting can get a little daunting, which is one reason I no longer do any experimenting.
      But the main reason is that I’m driven to try to understand and explain it as best I can through my writing. That seems to be more aligned with my soul purpose.

      Blessings to you!

      • Tom Rawlings says:

        Just see this now. Glad I checked. Mark, that is encouraging- that there IS serious research going on. I’m fortunate to be getting good feedback from John Debney. He’s serious like you and me. I was saying to him that I asked you how to tell the difference between the real souls and the other entities. I’d bet my literal life I contacted mom, by tone and content-, but lately I asked, who is with me, and recorded, ‘your father’s spirit’. Then, a louder male spirit says, ‘of your father’s Visage’. Then, immediately, the entity who indicates he’s my dad says, ‘ I want to be Tom’s homecoming saint’. Then, a young spirit I have known a long time sort of yells at him and says, ‘thats sick’. Then repeats that, then says, ‘ he’s only 17’. I’m 69!!! Maybe Emotionally I’m 17? It’s confusing! I thank God for every one, they all prove there’s something beyond. I think of them All as friends, but I would sure love to know with whom I am speaking.

        • Tom Rawlings says:

          I just want to add ( I promise this will be the last for a while), I am incorrect some of the time as to what they say. But I would bet my life that I am correct many times. The more words there are the more they string together so it’s hard to break them apart mentally to understand. The phrase, I want to be his homecoming saint’, I heard before as, ‘I’ll always come to dispense common sense’. And I hear that clearly now. I’d say that is what he said. When the sentences are short and slow it’s easy to understand them. When talk is fast they are all connected. It is hard not to talk about this when there is such an easy way to do it as on this site which Mr Macy has so generously made available to the public. Good bless you all and keep you safe in the palm of His Hand. Tom

          • Mark Macy says:

            Hi Tom,

            As I mentioned earlier, I quit experimenting years ago, mostly because I thought I could do more good writing about ITC… but also because it can be kind of daunting (until a stable bridge has been established and spirit gets accustomed to our flow of time here on Earth). (Hence the name of their sending station back in the 1990s: Timestream). Until a bridge like that is established (and a competent spirit team comes together), their thoughts are often random and fleeting… hard to grasp. Sometimes uplifting, sometimes a little troubling.

            I have lots of admiration for people like you and John who keep at it dauntlessly. When a team of researchers can work together closely IN HARMONY (that’s key), then I believe finer spirit will step in to establish, sustain, and protect an ITC bridge.

            God bless,


  6. Tom Rawlings says:

    Hi Mark, how is your article coming along? I would like to read it since I think I will now be able to appreciate it more. I got Spectralayers 8 today and have been going back over some recordings I made earlier this year. The more I do this, the more of what I read by you and others in this study comes to mind. Where before i dismissed it, now I’m not. I’m getting a distinct impression, in all I’ve heard, that there’s some kind of ‘hierarchy’ over there, where rules apply, and that it’s not a free for all. In this permissive society we live in I’ve thought of it as being a kind of bliss, sitting on clouds, etc. Now, listening closer to what I’ve gotten, that’s changing. I’m ‘realizing’ that there’s people who Know about all of this, like the medium I went to where mom came through, at least more than me. The pieces sort of come together. Thanks,. Tom

    • Mark Macy says:

      Hi Tom,

      The article on faith vs evidence is more complicated than I thought it would be. Really stretched my brain. Ouch 🙂

      It’s coming together nicely now, and I expect to have it done this week.

      What you say about hierarchy and rules on the other side feels very right to me. Sounds like your work is being guided and protected… a very positive sign.


      • Tom Rawlings says:

        Hi Mark,. I am excited about this and wanted to share if I could, that you have helped me in something big. Your downplay of my use of the words, ‘kingdom of God’, as the place where we go when we die, I believe was right. I’m not going to use those words from now on. I think Jesus mainly spoke Aramaic and said, ‘malkutha dismaya’, which is not referring to a place, but to the power and authority of God. I used the words ‘the kingdom’ in a recording session yesterday and recorded a voice that said, ‘ there’s no such thing as… the kingdom.’ This is a biggie for me and I am thankful to God for it, and you are a part of it. Just wanted to pass it on. I have been hard at this study lately… No email, no phone, nothing else. Looking forward to your article! Take care, Tom

        • Mark Macy says:

          Hi Tom,

          I didn’t realize I’d downplayed the “kingdom of God” reference.
          Whatever beliefs get people “closer to the source” in vibration are great.
          I want to thank you for our recent dialogs, since I really needed to sort through my own beliefs (based on what I’ve learned through ITC and afterlife research) and then put everything together in a way that tries to make sense of everything and how it all fits together. (especially science and religion)

          That’s what I did with the most recent article about Faith vs Evidence, which I posted last week. The article was inspired by our dialogs, as I mention at the end of the article.

          Back in the 1990s, Willis Harman and I invited German physicist Ernst Senkowski to the States to talk to people here in Colorado and in the San Francisco area about ITC, science, and the afterlife. He stayed at our place for a couple of nights on his way to San Francisco, and while I was barbecuing in the back yard, he took Regina aside and warned her that the kind of work her husband was getting into (spirit communication through technology) can sometimes make those experimenters kind of weird for a while, because of the strange messages that sometimes come through and the psychic or mediumistic abilities that begin to develop as they develop a rapport with spirit. This is an important point that’s probably deserving of another article in this series. So thanks again for the inspiration! 🙂 (not the next article, but ‘coming soon…’)


      • Tom Rawlings says:

        Mark, before I read your article may I please quote from one I am just now settling down from? It’s a very touching one for me…
        KINGDOM MOMENTS Now just to be clear; there is a heaven. And heaven is waiting for us in all its glory, but we don’t have to wait for heaven. Jesus is telling us that we can experience moments of heaven right here and now, and he calls that experience the Kingdom of God. Do you know what the Kingdom feels like? Of course you do. When you were in love for the first time and you looked into your beloved’s eyes; when you held your first child and melted into that tiny face; when you sat watching a sunset and were transported into the scene; when you threw your head back and laughed with abandon at the punchline of a really funny joke; at prayer; at worship… What were you thinking at any of these moments? NOTHING! These are moments so powerful that our sense of self breaks down, and we are completely borderless as individuals. We are fully connected to everyone and everything. For once, the voice with which we talk to ourselves in our minds is hushed and we cease to be one, separate and alone, but one of many, functioning as one together. This is the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom moment. And this moment, right now, can be such a moment… Or this one. It’s our choice every moment to enter the Kingdom or to leave it. And when we string enough Kingdom moments together, then we say with Jesus, that we are characterized by Kingdom. Our name, our Shem, our essense, is now one with God, right here, right now. This article really got to me… And it’s new to me as I am learning new stuff as I get older. This writing reminded me of home… When those moments went on an on for my whole childhood. Adult life has been nothing but work for me, but there are these brief glimpses like this article gave me of what it’s all about! Will post this then read your article to make sure this doesn’t get lost, since I am on phone and it’s hard to type…

        • Mark Macy says:

          Hi Tom,
          I read your comment twice, and yes:
          Each time I read that comment I see nothing but light.
          In my terminology (from my faith-vs-evidence article that you’re about to read), whoever wrote that “Kingdom of God” material had probably ‘found a conscious contact with the source.’
          But I wouldn’t change a word of what those folks wrote. The “Kingdom of God” and Jesus as an intercessor for us humans… it’s beautiful.
          If that book can keep you anchored in light (and I can see how it would!) keep it as an anchor. That would be my advice, for what it’s worth.

          ITC can be a tenuous path–a lot of darkness out there!–but as long as we stay anchored in light, then the bridge that develops around us becomes refined and protected. If we ever feel moments of fear and uncertainty leaking into our life, we back away from ITC research for awhile and anchor ourself in light (meditation, contemplation, prayer…)

          I’ve been reading lots of stuff for my next article (on extraterrestrials) and I’ve found lots of inspired, uplifting material… along with some pretty ugly things about ETs and abductions. I’m going to focus on the finer aspects of ETs, but I won’t completely ignore the dark stuff. I’ll try to “put it in its place”, the way I’m learning to put Earth’s spiritual shadow in its place in my articles. It’s something to be aware of–like a stubbed toe that needs to heal–but certainly not something to dwell on.

          I’m amazed you can type these long, coherent comments on your phone. Commendable! Mistypes and autocorrect drive me nuts while texting 🙂 . For this kind of dialog I’d be using a computer with a keyboard… (like the one you had Spectralayers installed on). But if typing on the phone is easy for you… again, I’m amazed!

          Anyway, back to bed in a few minutes. I woke up awhile ago, saw your comment in my emails, and was compelled to get up and write a quick answer.

          Good night and good luck…

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